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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    I was wondering what you meant by your past roller coaster comment, and now I understand.

    My analogy was in Six Flags taking all their other rides away. No matter much fun R/Cs might be, the Giant drop and the things that mess with gravity, as well as the the things that spin you around and around on a giant pendulum... they're quite fun.

    I can relate to video game programming too. I have experience in large scale programming and understand the coordination and understand how quality projects usually rely on multiple people.

    That being said, people still give them too much leeway, always using the same excuses and some of the glitches that arise are just... baffling. Other glitches that they offer no concern twards, like the near-untargetable-ness of reive targets.. Personally, if it were an application I were working on, such a widespread bug would never fly.

    Ever.
    True but I'm sure if they had a bigger team, things would be much better. I just don't see them putting out more than they are doing right now.

    Updates now before the recent ones shows better improvements from how I see it.

    I just think they did enough work in 2 months. That's why I keep saying DEVs are not robots.

    They cannot alter something without seeing the results of what they implemented first. That's why I think it takes time.
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    Also they probably have other unreleased projects in the works behind the scene. Stuff we don't see but find out later like Skirmish. Which also shows they are constantly working. We just don't see it.

    So that's why I can't make complaints like REM because that would be poking at someone who most likely has plans but cannot give anyone a definite word on it yet as it could cause conflicts if they need to change something later.

    It's not about keeping us in the dark. But community reps can't rush Devs to tell them information on projects that are not done.

    I'm also sure he will keep his word on REM upgrades. I mean almost 100,000 fans on the English site alone complained. He did say don't throw away REM and that he understands how much time people spent on these.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...nd-WoE-Weapons

    To not carry out his word would only be a major disaster. It would only be common sense to follow through on this promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    I'm glad you know me and no that I have no interest in several VW fights, nor Odin II, nor old salvage, and new.

    Oh wait, I do.
    I didn't know you want to do all that old content like assaults, dynamis, city mission, old and new salvage, sky, sea, etc... If you do, then why go and announce that it's all dead to people? It makes you sound like you think it's dead and that it should stay dead. Pessimism brings negative thoughts, and those negative thoughts fester until you say something like "All the old stuff is dead so don't bother doing it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamph View Post
    I didn't know you want to do all that old content like assaults, dynamis, city mission, old and new salvage, sky, sea, etc... If you do, then why go and announce that it's all dead to people? It makes you sound like you think it's dead and that it should stay dead. Pessimism brings negative thoughts, and those negative thoughts fester until you say something like "All the old stuff is dead so don't bother doing it."
    Yeah I misunderstood too. I want both of you to know that a good portion of my ideas relate to old content. And how SE could give us interest to go back and do them.

    Voidwatch and WR
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...E-Point-System

    AF quests Limbus/Dyna/Abyssea
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/36059-AF4

    Sky/Ein/PW/VW
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ation-Exchange

    I try to think of ideas that a good portion of the community can benefit from it.

    Other comments I've made throughout other threads like allowing us to have restrictions removed off Nyzul, NNI, Salvage but doesn't look like that will become a reality.

    Then there's the 2 guides I wrote with the intention of helping people.

    Beginners Guide
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...eginners-Guide

    Guide for Returning players
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...egy-Guide-FFXI

    So I do care. Just I try to look at all perspectives that can help everyone including new players just starting. But also from the POV of the Devs and the obstacles they face.

    So yeah that's why I can be stubborn. Looking at things from all perspectives and not just a certain side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Yeah I misunderstood too. I want both of you to know that a good portion of my ideas relate to old content. And how SE could give us interest to go back and do them.

    Voidwatch and WR
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...E-Point-System

    AF quests Limbus/Dyna/Abyssea
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/36059-AF4

    Sky/Ein/PW/VW
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ation-Exchange

    I try to think of ideas that a good portion of the community can benefit from it.

    Other comments I've made throughout other threads like allowing us to have restrictions removed off Nyzul, NNI, Salvage but doesn't look like that will become a reality.

    Then there's the 2 guides I wrote with the intention of helping people.

    Beginners Guide
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...eginners-Guide

    Guide for Returning players
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...egy-Guide-FFXI

    So I do care. Just I try to look at perspectives that can help everyone including new players just starting. But also from the POV of the Devs and the obstacles they face.

    So yeah that's why I can be stubborn. Looking at things from all perspectives and not just a certain side.
    I'm totally down with all the stuff... There was so much stuff to do when I first started a couple years ago, and the jobs I love to play (BLM and RNG) get 0 love whatsoever from the playerbase... It was all about trying to get quests and missions done. I play with my wife, but there was only so much we could do with only the 2 of us. Now that the level has been increased, and with all the Adoulin Gear, I'm finally able to get out and enjoy this game for the storyline. I don't want to be able to solo everything, but at least with the main storylines, I figured any well-balanced group of any jobs should be able to go through it and get it done.

    I'm finding that SE is putting in little hints to go back to old content, like popsets in flotsam. I also know how much pressure they're under because of both games working at the same time. I hope that they can keep both of them afloat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    I was wondering what you meant by your past roller coaster comment, and now I understand.

    My analogy was in Six Flags taking all their other rides away. No matter much fun R/Cs might be, the Giant drop and the things that mess with gravity, as well as the the things that spin you around and around on a giant pendulum... they're quite fun.
    As for this I understand and all I was saying is that not all rollcoasters have the same conditions, but technically it is a rollercoaster.

    I just appreciate no more waiting 1 entire week real time staring at sand all day. Drinking coffee and redbull, popping caffeine pills and asking a friend to take turns watching to see if HMN popped lol.

    No more 6 months to over a year questing and doing missions to obtain powerful weapons. Thank Delve for that.

    No more rage quit anger over greedy HNMLS fighting over who gets the drops from HNM.
    Thanks to Wildkeeper Reives, I don't have to get cheated, lied to for wasting 1 week killing myself watching for spawn only to have it stolen, tricked of getting to play the event by rude, elitist only to say "Sorry we lied, now go run off and cry"

    And how Japan could see spawn before us so it popped already claimed before sprite appeared.

    That's why I can't complain about the new direction. I'm glad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamph View Post
    I'm totally down with all the stuff... There was so much stuff to do when I first started a couple years ago, and the jobs I love to play (BLM and RNG) get 0 love whatsoever from the playerbase... It was all about trying to get quests and missions done. I play with my wife, but there was only so much we could do with only the 2 of us. Now that the level has been increased, and with all the Adoulin Gear, I'm finally able to get out and enjoy this game for the storyline. I don't want to be able to solo everything, but at least with the main storylines, I figured any well-balanced group of any jobs should be able to go through it and get it done.

    I'm finding that SE is putting in little hints to go back to old content, like popsets in flotsam. I also know how much pressure they're under because of both games working at the same time. I hope that they can keep both of them afloat...
    Yeah I'm seeing a lot of good improvements. I love that they added DD stats to Mage Bayld gears STR!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    I'm saying try to get it all in the first time before you hit post. It's no fun writing a response and then seeing that the original post to which I am responding has changed.
    I've pointed this exact thing out to him multiple times. In his mind making changes and adding points to a post 15+ minutes later isn't a big deal. I've even gone so far as to explain how to edit a post properly so he doesn't come off looking like a revisionist but he has chosen to ignore that.

    Daemon - Stop posting from work when you don't have the time to fully respond and wait until you do. The OF won't melt down if you don't post 10+ times a day (not including your extensive edits).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaxx View Post
    I've pointed this exact thing out to him multiple times. In his mind making changes and adding points to a post 15+ minutes later isn't a big deal. I've even gone so far as to explain how to edit a post properly so he doesn't come off looking like a revisionist but he has chosen to ignore that.

    Daemon - Stop posting from work when you don't have the time to fully respond and wait until you do. The OF won't melt down if you don't post 10+ times a day (not including your extensive edits).
    Uh if you know I edit my post and I already said this over and over then you'd know by now I never turn around and change my words to make me look right. I just add on than start a new reply. The only thing I do change is if I misspelled or used broken English or if spell correcting from iPhone placed a word that was incorrect.

    If he said he was in the middle of writing something but saw that I added on to my post. Then that should tell you that I never go back and change my words to make it look like something was said and they are wrong. Obviously he never posted anything for me to go back and change something I said.

    It's just I type from a cellphone and because I can't preview what I wrote without posting first I have no choice.

    Then there is spacing paragraphs so it doesn't look like 1 huge chunk of words. And if I post first and edit, I have to add it fast before someone else posts a reply or else my entire response will come out different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Uh if you know I edit my post and I already said this over and over then you'd know by now I never turn around and change my words to make me look right. I just add on than start a new reply. The only thing I do change is if I misspelled or used broken English or if spell correcting from iPhone placed a word that was incorrect.

    If he said he was in the middle of writing something but saw that I added on to my post. Then that should tell you that I never go back and change my words to make it look like something was said and they are wrong. Obviously he never posted anything for me to go back and change something I said.

    It's just I type from a cellphone and because I can't preview what I wrote without posting first I have no choice.

    Then there is spacing paragraphs so it doesn't look like 1 huge chunk of words. And if I post first and edit, I have to add it fast before someone else posts a reply or else my entire response will come out different.
    This is all easy to say, but here's the thing - you do add points to your posts and those additions do alter the points you are trying to make and how you make them.

    My basic point still stands. Stop posting if you can't put your thoughts out in a coherent manner regularly. There's no reason to be constantly posting from you phone. Whatever you have to say can wait. The OF will not disappear without your contribution.
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