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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Oh I see, so its better to have a player pissed off they wasted their time 1000 fights rather than to have a happy player coming back for more rewards such as plates constantly because they feel as though their time is properly rewarded. Sounds like a great idea.
    Money isn't as big of a motivator as rare/ex gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPapaBlueJay View Post
    I'm not advocating for low drop rate, I'm just saying that it would be necessary.
    You can not say its necessary to put your players through a stupidly hellish about of tries against a single monster in order to get their reward, and at the same time talk about adding a few items of high worth to the mixture at the same time. Its the same thing I keep saying with WK Reives. The content will continue to go on so long as people see money in it, if Plates make money, Dross make money, and Cinder make money, VW makes money, and if VW makes money, no matter if you have the only drop you want, every drop from the NM, or no drops at all, you have a reason to do the NM, and are most likely going to do it at some point unless you are one of the few people in this game who actually do not need money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPapaBlueJay View Post
    Money isn't as big of a motivator as rare/ex gear.
    A .1% drop isn't as big of a motivator as money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    A .1% drop isn't as big of a motivator as money.
    Money generally only motivates those who wish to spend money on big ticket items. If you already are satisfied with your position, the rare, incredible items, that would be free, are a larger motivator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPapaBlueJay View Post
    There is always the option to be content with mediocrity. I believe low drop rate is the only concern people seem to be having on this topic. I'm not advocating for low drop rate, I'm just saying that it would be necessary. By all means make a new system, but I don't think that the current VW system is broken.

    All I'm interested in is an expansion of Voidwatch into the Adoulin areas.
    I have never nearly pissed myself laughing before, but the bolded part nearly did it.

    If you think Voidwatch is "superior" gear, then you've got your priorities horribly mixed up. Voidwatch is old and busted. Man, even Bayld gear is better than most of the gear that comes from Voidwatch and Bayld gear is considered "mediocre". And guess what! I DON'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH A 1/1000 CHANCE TO GET IT!!!! I've got a bunch of the Delve armor pieces already, which is vastly superior to the Voidwatch load of fecal matter you seem to think is so good. It takes a little work to get, but guess what? At least I know I'm working towards an attainable goal (delve armor) every time I participate in a plasm farm run.

    So kindly take your Voidwatch "expansion request" and stuff it where the sun doesn't shine. Voidwatch was HORRIBLE and must never see the light of day again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPapaBlueJay View Post
    Money generally only motivates those who wish to spend money on big ticket items. If you already are satisfied with your position, the rare, incredible items, that would be free, are a larger motivator.
    That's funny, because I have yet to meet a person in game who would not go do an event for money unless the event was unbearably boring to them. In the event of Dyna for instance, I know many people who hate it and will not do it for gil, by that same token, I know many who will, I also know many of the people who will not do Dyna, will not do it because they hate it, not they don't need money. Besides that, if you are already satisfied with your 'position' then it seems to me that going back to what you said before, you should obviously be content with your mediocrity, should you not? I mean, if your not willing to spend a large sum of gil on an item, gil which takes a long time to earn, why would you spend an even longer amount of time fighting a NM for a .1% drop rate item? Simple answer, you wouldn't, your logic is flawed. No one who is unwilling to spend large amounts of gil for an item would be willing to spend a large amount of time on a lower drop rate item because you are essentially spending the same thing, time. Be it time spent earning gil, or time spent fighting a NM, its time no matter how you look at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siviard View Post
    Oh, I get it. Voidwatch was your main source of income, wasn't it? Now that Voidwatch is dead for the most part (THANK ALTANA FOR THAT!) you're here posting to try to get the Development Team to expand Voidwatch.

    I hear Dynamis farming is still somewhat relevant.....
    I get it... You never had to farm items for gil... You always had enough for whatever you wanted... I wonder how... hmmm... I wonder how...

    But seriously? Calling out someone for the way they make their gil? Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...................... Please pass me along any HMPs you get, because I'm severely lacking in the gil department at the moment.

    Hugs and Taru Kisses!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siviard View Post
    I have never nearly pissed myself laughing before, but the bolded part nearly did it.

    If you think Voidwatch is "superior" gear, then you've got your priorities horribly mixed up. Voidwatch is old and busted. Man, even Bayld gear is better than most of the gear that comes from Voidwatch and Bayld gear is considered "mediocre". And guess what! I DON'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH A 1/1000 CHANCE TO GET IT!!!! I've got a bunch of the Delve armor pieces already, which is vastly superior to the Voidwatch load of fecal matter you seem to think is so good. It takes a little work to get, but guess what? At least I know I'm working towards an attainable goal (delve armor) every time I participate in a plasm farm run.

    So kindly take your Voidwatch "expansion request" and stuff it where the sun doesn't shine. Voidwatch was HORRIBLE and must never see the light of day again.
    You're twisting things. Voidwatch expansion into Adoulin areas would be sure to bring in some superior pieces of gear. I'm not talking about current VW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamph View Post
    I get it... You never had to farm items for gil... You always had enough for whatever you wanted... I wonder how... hmmm... I wonder how...

    But seriously? Calling out someone for the way they make their gil? Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...................... Please pass me along any HMPs you get, because I'm severely lacking in the gil department at the moment.

    Hugs and Taru Kisses!

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    Crafting, my friend. Crafting. Specifically Leathercraft. It helps having a 105 Leathercraft mule.

    Oh, and I hardly ever got any HMPs whenever I did do Voidwatch. In total, I probably got 50 pieces. Even when I did Voidwatch specifically to try farming plates to sell, I wouldn't get any. Such is my luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPapaBlueJay View Post
    You're twisting things. Voidwatch expansion into Adoulin areas would be sure to bring in some superior pieces of gear. I'm not talking about current VW.
    And you're missing the point. No one in their right mind will put themselves through another 1 out of 1,000 chance for a piece of situational gear, when there is gear they can buy with Bayld, or obtain from Delve either via drop directly from NM, or from purchasing with Plasm.
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