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  1. #341
    Player DarkBEWD's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louispv View Post
    They did that on purpose. The far weaker, worthless monsters no one wants to play as have the best instincts, and the ones everyone wants to play as have just okay to terrible instincts. (Or good instincts, but they're the final reward for leveling everything else in the family to 75 first.) Otherwise why even add the other monsters at all, and just let everyone have behemoths and adamantoises straight from the start?
    It seems like my intent was misunderstood, but I guess I was too vague while trying to keep it short. Basically, what I mean is, for any players like myself who would rather just focus on certain monsters they enjoy, there should be a way to continue gain instincts (that don't necessarily need to be the ones from other monsters) on that monster after it hits 90 while still playing as that monster. I'm sure there's someone else out there that targets certain monsters in each family and only levels the monsters needed to unlock those and only to the level required to unlock them, I'm totally fine if I never end up with that Haste +20 or Triple Attack +10, but what I'm not okay with is the fact that once I hit 90 or 99 on the monsters I care about, I reach a dead end and can't continue to acquire stats to improve it with while continuing to play as it. Think of it like only wanting to focus on your favorite jobs, but being unable to obtain any further gear playing as that job once you hit a certain level.
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  2. #342
    Player KorPoni's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkBEWD View Post
    It seems like my intent was misunderstood, but I guess I was too vague while trying to keep it short. Basically, what I mean is, for any players like myself who would rather just focus on certain monsters they enjoy, there should be a way to continue gain instincts (that don't necessarily need to be the ones from other monsters) on that monster after it hits 90 while still playing as that monster. I'm sure there's someone else out there that targets certain monsters in each family and only levels the monsters needed to unlock those and only to the level required to unlock them, I'm totally fine if I never end up with that Haste +20 or Triple Attack +10, but what I'm not okay with is the fact that once I hit 90 or 99 on the monsters I care about, I reach a dead end and can't continue to acquire stats to improve it with while continuing to play as it. Think of it like only wanting to focus on your favorite jobs, but being unable to obtain any further gear playing as that job once you hit a certain level.
    So, though I agree leveling monsters to gain good instincts (Astolian Slime sucks but has awesome instincts) allows you to be more versatile, and again allows you to play more monsters which makes you even more versatile, is totally acceptable, as is playing multiple jobs to get gear, I also agree there should be something you can do to expand your versatility with the monster you currently want to play as while capped, besides getting more infamy.
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    I like playing dnc. But, as galka, they should have natural earth damage to most dnc abilities.

  3. #343
    Community Rep Camate's Avatar
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    Greetings,

    Thanks for all the continued feedback on Monstrosity! I checked in with the Monstrosity team on a couple of things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ochretis View Post
    5. Unlock the normal size form of that monster (i.e. instead of being a smaller behemoth, would be the actual size of the behemoth players fight.)
    Currently there are four monster sizes and large monsters, such as behemoths, are not able to pass through certain locations because they are too big (Yes, there are spots I can’t access, it’s sad I know…), which is why we’ve scaled their size down a bit so you can move around anywhere you like.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ochretis View Post
    7. Highly unlikely, however if someone got 99 on each monster in a family they would unlock a special monster that isn't in the game and is unique to monstrosity.
    We don’t have any plans of adding new monsters that would be specific only to Monstrosity, but we would like to add some rare monsters in the future.
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    Devin "Camate" Casadey - Community Team

  4. #344
    Player Edyth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Currently there are four monster sizes and large monsters, such as behemoths, are not able to pass through certain locations because they are too big (Yes, there are spots I can’t access, it’s sad I know…), which is why we’ve scaled their size down a bit so you can move around anywhere you like.




    We don’t have any plans of adding new monsters that would be specific only to Monstrosity, but we would like to add some rare monsters in the future.
    I'm guessing the fourth tier of monster sizes is the one that gets scaled down? Because we only have 3 classifications in monstrosity. In any case, I'm happy that some have been scaled down. Playing as an amphiptere isn't fun for me because he HASN'T been scaled down enough, and I can't see a damn thing. I'm glad Behemoth and Cerberus don't have that issue.

    However, why the pygmy dhalmels and pygmy treants? Dhalmels I can understand a bit, and it's kind of cute, but the miniature treant bugs me, and we can already control WAY bigger things than a normal-sized treant. Why have treants been singled out? And are the special treants unlockable yet, or will they be released in the future? It seems no one has found them if they are.

    And I happily intepret "rare monsters" to mean Voidwatch species and other cool things that haven't been added yet. And I think Asoltian slimes and Eorzean spriggans are basically monstrosity-exclusive, since they're not in the game otherwise except in a limited capacity. They are permanently in monstrosity. And big thanks to the developers for the metal slimes and she-slimes and new spriggans! However, the names Spriggan.C and Spriggan.G just don't work in English. It looks like something from NES days. Can the names be changed to something less abnormal? Even just "Graverobber" and "Crier" would look better if needed, leaving the "Spriggan" title off.
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  5. #345
    Player Ochretis's Avatar
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    Was reading through the Beastmaster forum and read a really awesome idea from someone about "personal companion" pets and they had suggested later on that maybe getting 99 on a monster in monstrosity would allow you to obtain a special jug to call this monster with equipped instincts. I think it would also be a cool idea if something with blu could be incorporated, such as since blu's are in danger of becoming the beast within by overusing magic, some neat job ability called something like "Brink of Monstrosity" that was a 1hr recast, lasted for about 3-5mins would allow you to take on the form of the monster you got 99 in monstrosity, utilizing stat increases and the moves of the monster. This got me thinking of a neat concept.
    If you get 99 on a monster you are allowed to purchase a key item from the corpselights for a certain amount of infamy. This key item lets you enter a BCNM or pops some NM version of the monster you are. After you defeat this boss you go back and you can select from a variety of rewards (sort of like how when you defeat an avatar you can pick different rewards). Each monster would allow you to choose the jug for bst, the monster form for "Brink of Monstrosity", a specific weapon/armor that had stats that relate to the monster, a level 4 instinct, or a random end game item, such as heavy metal plate, alexandrite pouch, currency, etc.
    These fights would be challenging, nearly impossible without well planned instincts, maybe if monster parties were implemented would require a party of monsters. And the key item would cost a fair amount of infamy/ also require HNM status as well. Anyway just something I thought would be neat and bring a lot more people to monstrosity, since there would be good end rewards.
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  6. #346
    Player Mnejing's Avatar
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    Just had an idea for exp, why not allow us to convert our feral monsters into monipulators! This change would be permanent and could cost some infamy to do.

    Obviously this would mean more monsters will be supported for pankration using pygmy versions for very large monsters and level cap raised to 99.
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  7. #347
    Player DarkBEWD's Avatar
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    Adult Wamouras in level 30 cap belligerency have no TP moves to use, it'd be nice if Magma Fan was bumped down to that level range.
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  8. #348
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkBEWD View Post
    Adult Wamouras in level 30 cap belligerency have no TP moves to use, it'd be nice if Magma Fan was bumped down to that level range.
    Possibly but considering you don't unlock it till 50 and at 60 you Erratic Flutter it only kinda matters for those 10 levels and even than the campa form can cleave VTs better than mowing down eps in buriburimu
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  9. #349
    Player Leonardus's Avatar
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    Where is the party-play for Monstrosity already? I really -want- to enjoy this content (It's good for sparks), but not being able to party with a friend or your dual self is really, really disappointing.
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  10. #350
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    When are we going to get Khimaira as a unlockable species? I'd like to know the upgrade path so I'll know where to focus my grinding.
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