Monstrosity Feedback

[Demon6324236]

I agree with Dasva, though I wish the leveling was faster post-50 as it gets annoying stupid as normal, I have been enjoying it quite a bit without rewards. Next update when PvP is added I plan to take my level 99 Genbu Adamantoise up against my LS and see how it works out, I have a few people who seem very excited at the idea, and some who are even thinking of leveling their own mobs to unlock things like Behemoth, even if it rewards them with nothing more than enjoyment.

[Selindrile]

Well I can't disagree enough with the both of you, when Monstrosity first came out, there was just tons of people playing it, wave after wave, I started a Monstrosity linkshell, the most common question asked by new people is, "What do I get from doing all this?" And quickly, it tailed off to the point where I know almost noone who still does it, even I quit doing it, as excited as I was by the concept, because it felt unrewarding, I only know one person who made it to higher levels (70+) on monstrosity on my server.

I now almost never see other monsters when I do go out, which I have been doing since the patch to play with job abilities. This thing seems to be falling off as fast as Pankration did, which was extremely fast. Ballista was far more popular, for quite a longer time, again, on my server at least.

[Demon6324236]

Once you can do more with it, perhaps it will be more lively then. Right now the game is dying and the content is still being built, unlike the other 2 which were made, released, and hardly touched.

[dasva]

I don't think you are disagreeing with me so much as saying it's not for alot of people and that a decent portion of the player base only cares about their endgame rewards. Which I totally agree with. I'm just saying it is fun in and of itself. Why do events that you wouldn't do without a reward just so you can get gear to help you do other events you wouldn't do if there wasn't a reward?

Either your server is silly or your sample size is skewed. I personally have 5 species over 70 and everytime I go to level in zeruh there are at least 2-3 people there between lvl 65-75. So I can safely say there are definitely people out there that can have fun in the game without some nice pixels going into there loot pool.

As a final note we already have lots and lots and lots of events for drops. Litterally 10+ years worth. Yet aside from voidwatch I see more people doing monstrosity than all other pre soa content combined. This is because with the focus on rapid gear progession (though even before soa there was very few people in older stuff) only the most current events are worth doing for gear. And if you didn't make the content fun to begin with well who cares. With this they have the chance to make a nice lite event that is just fun to do. That wont be tied to ever shifting materialism. Will the town gear E-pimps like it? No they wont but they also don't like 90% of the content other there either since it's past it's expiration date. I beleive keeping it like it is will keep it's overall longevity for the niche it is going for and perhaps some rewards for the more competive parts that come with pvp and mvp. Just wait till partying and pvp and mvp come along. The main bore right now is how slow higher levels are and how you are 100% alone on it. I personally can't wait to go to BD as "King Behemoth" and troll the lines there lol

PS. Technically there are rewards right now. You can get KIs from kills . Though there aren't many that can be done as a monster in those areas I think and was probably just an oversight lol

[Selindrile]

You just said "This content isn't for most people." Why are we spending this much dev time on content that "Isn't for most people?" Then, this is not a few emotes, or something like that, this is slated to be a pretty big system, with what little dev power we have, we should be focusing on the majority, trying to maintain some population.

We have lots of events for drops, 10 years worth, which all have become obsolete as you just said yourself, and few people do the vast majority. There's only one old content that I see people doing more than monstrosity, BCNMs/KSNM, mainly because people are still building blackbelts, going for Drings, and (until this weekend) looking for Utsususemi: Ni and Phalanx scrolls. As you said, there's even lines for KB, people still do this because of the Dring, not anything else.

Rewards, that is what gives content desirability and longevity in an MMO environment, that and nothing else, also, my proposed system would not ever fall 'out of date', there's no materialism or E-pimpery involved in merits. There's nothing to fall "out of date" as it's essentially Merits: Group Monster.

I'll admit that my sampling hasn't been scientifically conducted, but look at the FFXIAH forums, nobody mentions monstrosity, and the forums here, people don't talk about monstrosity much, which implies, as seems to my own anecdotal evidence, that it's not done much anymore, despite the changes, and I argue that's because it's unrewarding.

[Byrth]

All I do in game right now is Monstrosity, pretty much. I'm working towards level 90 Gnat right now (at 68). It's very boring, but so is the rest of the game.

[dasva]

Dammit Byrth you passed my gnat!!!

[dasva]

What exactly are you even complaining about?

[Edyth]

This thread is about 200 posts, this BG thread has 558 posts [http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/117...iring-Species], and this FFXIAH thread has 28 pages [http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/39...pecies-guide/], so obviously people care about monstrosity. I think the reason it's not as hot a discussion topic as it was before is because Gnat and JAs are the only things added since August 6. We're just waiting around now/leveling up the dozens of species already accesible.

[dasva]

Oh and that bg thread is more or less specifically about well acquiring species though it does derail into lvling location talk and such. The other thread for mechanics and such is about twice as big.

Speaking of jas can we get a confirm on wether or not we are supposed to get any subjob jas?