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    Player Haldarn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Naw just those two. When people realized there's no way he could have a Gungnir, he came in with his non-sock account to save the day. It's pretty B-A.
    I'm afraid I don't believe you GG. Or should I say... Andylynn!!! :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haldarn View Post
    I'm afraid I don't believe you GG. Or should I say... Andylynn!!! :P
    LOL

    very nice ^^
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    His mule is dual-wielding them, clearly. He has two hands after all.
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    omg why did i read the last 6 page =(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilax View Post
    omg why did i read the last 6 page =(
    Trainwreck effect.
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    Your only argument is that, for some reasons, you want

    (1) CAP magic evasion
    (2) CAP it on ALL elements

    1) First, there are very little mob that are dangerous enough to care about damage taken that cast different spells elements. (which ?)
    2)Second, out of those that cast several magic elements, some are dangerous ; for those you use 1 +100 element atma, 1 or two +INT atmas, 1 barspell from whm pr rdm, 2 carols. (which NM?). You can also only use one elemental atma and two DD atmas like for dragua, but I don't have info on other NMs yet to be certain I don't need more. This one cast one element but you get the idea. 3 element atma one barspell makes you immune to 4 elements, 2 carol and specific gears for the last 2.

    Inbefore : lol nub you sacrifce double march and 3 atmas lolz. Seriously if you can kill it with -50% mdt total it's a pussy, check point 1).

    3) NMs with dangerous spells based on 1 element : WTF would you use mdt ? For melee it's 13 gears at worst, for mage it's maybe 4 piece of gear which is MUCH less than mdt. There is this wonderful stat called INT. For those you can DD all out with 3 atmas.

    4) On an IT mobs at 90, 300-330 ish is required to cap. Therefore 210-240 is only required to resist 50% of the time which in essence means that :
    * barspell from a WHM (~150 ?)
    * addle (30 ?)
    * int from cruor above ~90 (30 ?)
    is already enough to resist ~50%-70% of the time. Let's say you need those 210 meva for 50% rate. The mob's landing rate is therefore p=0.5 (50%) and you take
    full damage : p=0.5=50% of the time
    1/2 damage : p*(1-p) of the time
    1/4 damage : p*(1-p)^2 of the time
    1/8 damage : (1-p)^3 of the time
    When you sum up it works as if you take 67% of the maximum damage, which you pair with shell5 for about -25% which ends up being equivalent to : 50% mdt.
    Any piece of meva gear from there is a lot more performant that mdt, not even talking about the waste of invo called mdb.

    If you bump your meva with just 2 earrings and one belt ( 50 total) in a macro which costs 3 inventory slots and is much less than mdt, and doesn't exclude it either btw, those extra 50 meva mean that before shell is accounted for, the mob now has 25% magic landing rate or equivalently p=0.25 which implies that you average 43% of the maximum damage, and after shell is acounted for it gives 32% which is equivalent to -68% MDT. This where I lol at your mdt build because my 2 earrings and my belt, totalizing 3 inventory slots, beat the crap out of your 10 inventory slots entirely designed to reduce damage to -50%. Also if you are a monk : byakko/genbu/susazu, belt and 2 earrings totalize 100 meva and they put you at cap. FOUR inventory slots, -86% mdt. additional effect : immune to slow paralyze petrify etc.

    This what people call game mechanics.
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    Last edited by MarkovChain; 03-25-2011 at 07:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Your only argument is that, for some reasons, you want

    (1) CAP magic evasion
    (2) CAP it on ALL elements

    1) First, there are very little mob that are dangerous enough to care about damage taken that cast different spells elements. (which ?)
    2)Second, out of those that cast several magic elements, some are dangerous ; for those you use 1 +100 element atma, 1 or two +INT atmas, 1 barspell from whm pr rdm, 2 carols. (which NM?)
    So you want to DDs to sacrifice:

    15% Triple Attack
    Auto-RR3
    Occasional chainspell
    50 DEX
    50 STR
    21% haste
    30% crit rate
    30% crit damage
    10% double attack
    2/tic regain

    All that to maybe take less damage from at the most 3/8 elements. Spells which are completely managable by a competent DD and healer even with a half-arsed MDT set.

    Ok then, have fun hitting Rani for 0 damage.

    Also, what's this 4 pieces of MDT gear nonsense. Assuming for PDT you have good dark rings, twilight torque, askar feet you can cap MDT with 1 more piece of gear (Avalon Breastplate assuming you can wear) if you have merited shellra V on.
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    Rani is a ****. And the fight is anything but a question of DDing or maximizing damage output. Inbefore brew.
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    Last edited by Yuyukosai; 03-25-2011 at 07:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Rani is a ****. And the fight is anything but a question of DDing or maximizing damage output. Inbefore brew.
    Whats the lowest you done Rani with without a brew? What was the set up?
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    Last edited by Yuyukosai; 03-25-2011 at 07:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Rani is a ****. And the fight is anything but a question of DDing or maximizing damage output. Inbefore brew.
    Says the guy who refuses to believe Briareus can be done with less than 6 people.

    Oh Pchan, you so funny.
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    Last edited by Yuyukosai; 03-25-2011 at 07:55 AM.

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