Low level exp parties

[Daemon]

This kind of response comes from someone who is retarded. There is no other way someone could actually unlock a job, fail to know about its primary function which is using a pet, fail to look at any of its job abilities, ever, at all, and still manage to get to level 99. No matter if they did a party or did it solo or did it in Gusgen, they would be just as clueless I think. Someone stupid enough to not even look at their JAs & what they do is the kind of person in my opinion who is not going to learn no matter if they did it slow or if they simply skipped leveling entirely.

I can believe it thanks to FC. You could be a level 99 on another job do BST quest, then FC to 99 on BST and still not know to play the job.

[Demon6324236]

I can believe it thanks to FC. You could be a level 99 on another job do BST quest, then FC to 99 on BST and still not know to play the job.

If you even make it to level 10 without checking your Job Ability list a single time, your beyond hope in my opinion. So unless you get into Gusgen at level 1, get to 30 literally doing nothing but standing there afk, then join a FC and again get to 99 standing there afk, you have no excuse for not having looked at your JAs in my opinion. At that point, I doubt any amount of making you solo things or level slowly would create a competent and good player in all honesty, even if it sounds mean or rude, because you fail to understand the basics of exploring what a job can do. Without even the most simple level of exploring such a thing, such as looking at your Job Abilities you gain as you level, I doubt you can ever truly explore what your job is capable of and understand how to put it to effective use, which to me, means you will never be a good player. That, is why I say someone who could literally get to 99 BST without understanding the basic function that is Charm, or knowing that Charm is even existant, is beyond hope.

[Daemon]

Mages? How many WHM know how to be patient and spam lower level cures to conserve mp rather than use the highest tier all because it heals people faster?

Nukers trying to be a 1 man show depleting MP while drawing hate for nuking too hard when spamming lowest tier can build up to better damage over time?

Then you have DDs who don't know that if they are taking too much damage to begin with they shouldn't be eager to tank a mob especially if a War or Pld is in the party.

I could go on really...

[Hawklaser]

Mages? How many WHM know how to be patient and spam lower level cures to conserve mp rather than use the highest tier all because it heals people faster?

Nukers trying to be a 1 man show depleting MP while drawing hate for nuking too hard when spamming lowest tier can build up to better damage over time?

Then you have DDs who don't know that if they are taking too much damage to begin with they shouldn't be eager to tank a mob especially if a War or Pld is in the party.

I could go on really...

The difference here is mages and tanks function much differently in a party than solo. DD is actually pretty straight forward, and really if the DD is getting wailed on, and is not hate capped alongside several other players, would say the issue is more often the tanks fault than the DD. Not saying every time the fault is with the tank, sometimes the DD's do keep using abilities they should not.

[Daemon]

The difference here is mages and tanks function much differently in a party than solo. DD is actually pretty straight forward, and really if the DD is getting wailed on, and is not hate capped alongside several other players, would say the issue is more often the tanks fault than the DD. Not saying every time the fault is with the tank, sometimes the DD's do keep using abilities they should not.

BLM spells are pretty powerful at low level though. Especially BLM could out damage a DD through Spellcasting speed especially now that elemental adjustments have now made casting faster.

DD that does not have skills capped or does not have proper gear can still lose hate. Balance as a team is where strategy falls into play. Need to give tanker time to cause enough hate to keep mob under control and mages also need to help out by not casting too much to draw hate from mob onto them.

In which cases sometimes mages need to back off and wait for the tanker to recover control.

This cannot be learned or practiced effectively in gusgen mines when 17 other people are gang banging mobs.

[Hawklaser]

BLM spells are pretty powerful at low level though. Especially BLM could out damage a DD through Spellcasting speed especially now that elemental adjustments have now made casting faster.

DD that does not have skills capped or does not have proper gear can still lose hate. Balance as a team is where strategy falls into play. Need to give tanker time to cause enough hate to keep mob under control and mages also need to help out by not casting too much to draw hate from mob onto them.

In which cases sometimes mages need to back off and wait for the tanker to recover control.

This cannot be learned or practiced effectively in gusgen mines when 17 other people are gang banging mobs.

Well duh. There are certain dynamics of parties that can only really be learned in them. However, can still learn most of how most jobs work without them.

[Daemon]

DJ is one of the very rare few highly skilled players I know but seriously I think you forget that people like you are rare lol..

[detlef]

We're not talking about new players. This discussion came about when somebody accused the OP of being overly reliant on book burns for XP. It's readily apparent that the OP has at least XPed a few jobs to level cap and "the basics" you're describing probably does not apply.

[Daemon]

We're not talking about new players. This discussion came about when somebody accused the OP of being overly reliant on book burns for XP. It's readily apparent that the OP has at least XPed a few jobs to level cap and "the basics" you're describing probably does not apply.

I came back to FFXI last year started a brand new account, no Gil and no LS. I solod to 30 the oldschool way because I did not know about Gusgen mines and burning pages. Wasn't hard at all in fact I was overwhelmed how much easier FFXI is now compared to before Abyssea.

Did my own Subjob quest solo and then met a friend who helped me out throughout the game catch up which did kill the time by a a lot having only 1 friend.

She did not give me Gil nor did I asked for it. And I did not even own abyssea and reached level 75+ before I bought the expansion.

[Anjou]

I actually solo'd my BLU all the way to 99 (Kinda have to if you wanna be up to snuff on the spells)

The reason I don't like soloing...TOO...QUIET.