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    Player detlef's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siviard View Post
    I see someone relies on Gusgen Mines book burning a bit too much.

    Try learning how to play your jobs solo for a change. It will make you a better player. Trust me.
    Yes, spamming your single job ability and your one weapon skill while full timing gear will make you a better player.
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    Player Siviard's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    Yes, spamming your single job ability and your one weapon skill while full timing gear will make you a better player.
    My response was for those who level up to 30+ solely in Gusgen Mines book burns. Obviously you got whooshed and it wasn't even intentional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    Yes, spamming your single job ability and your one weapon skill while full timing gear will make you a better player.
    Fun fact: I had someone die repeatedly in their 50's while I was helping them with their level cap quest in Eld. Necropolis.

    They still hadn't realized undead aggro on low HP. After going 1-40 in Gusgen.

    In any case, most people don't even think to look around. You could have easily gone 1-24 in Dangruf Wadi solo in the time it takes most people to whine about how Gusgen is dead, sitting in Gusgen, waiting for a Gusgen PT...that's what those books were really meant for. So you didn't -have- to PT and still could get reasonable exp, even while soloing.
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    Old-time player, new-time character- Ragnarok server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    Yes, spamming your single job ability and your one weapon skill while full timing gear will make you a better player.
    Hey, learning to select 2-3 magic spells is vital to your skills!!
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    Player Annalise's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    Yes, spamming your single job ability and your one weapon skill while full timing gear will make you a better player.
    Depends on the job. Puppetmaster, for example, can have a lot more to play with than that. Even at level 10. There are many things to learn to play PUP well.
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    No matter where you level to 30+ your not really going to learn anything...
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    Player Siviard's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    No matter where you level to 30+ your not really going to learn anything...
    The biggest shock I think I ever got was when this 99 BST comes running past me with aggro asking me to save him (I'm on PUP) and I'm like, "dude, just Charm it!" The response was "wait, I can charm stuff? how?"

    This is the kind of thing that is happening nowadays from people who book burn Gusgen to 30 then key whore to 99. It's rather sickening if you ask me.

    So Demon, I ask you....Try saying what you said to someone who leveled any job solo and see what kind of reaction you get.
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    Player detlef's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siviard View Post
    The biggest shock I think I ever got was when this 99 BST comes running past me with aggro asking me to save him (I'm on PUP) and I'm like, "dude, just Charm it!" The response was "wait, I can charm stuff? how?"
    So you're saying that BST, the most traditional soloing job in the game, could learn a lot about the job by soloing? You're not exactly going out on a limb there.

    The vast majority of jobs in the game will not learn anything about party mechanics from soloing. Unless your whole point was that if you solo a lot you get better at soloing, in which case I'm not sure it's possible to be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    So you're saying that BST, the most traditional soloing job in the game, could learn a lot about the job by soloing? You're not exactly going out on a limb there.

    The vast majority of jobs in the game will not learn anything about party mechanics from soloing. Unless your whole point was that if you solo a lot you get better at soloing, in which case I'm not sure it's possible to be wrong.
    Maybe so, but players are suppose to learn the basics of how to gear, carry meds and food, survival by checking/dodging mobs, earn Gil farming (because you cannot earn it off skeletons in gusgen mines), skilling up on your own, buying gear and playing around with new equipment, macros, weaponskills, crafting that can help while soloing, questing and making use of the items that help you advance faster.

    Still to this very day people show up at end game events not even capped skills, no food and meds and poorly equipped.

    Last /yell in Jeuno I saw "Delve plasm farm "please have AF3 minimum requirement."
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    Last edited by Daemon; 08-07-2013 at 06:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siviard View Post
    The biggest shock I think I ever got was when this 99 BST comes running past me with aggro asking me to save him (I'm on PUP) and I'm like, "dude, just Charm it!" The response was "wait, I can charm stuff? how?".
    This kind of response comes from someone who is retarded. There is no other way someone could actually unlock a job, fail to know about its primary function which is using a pet, fail to look at any of its job abilities, ever, at all, and still manage to get to level 99. No matter if they did a party or did it solo or did it in Gusgen, they would be just as clueless I think. Someone stupid enough to not even look at their JAs & what they do is the kind of person in my opinion who is not going to learn no matter if they did it slow or if they simply skipped leveling entirely.
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