This thread AGAIN, please, fix WK.

[Daemon]

What I want to know is why bayld and plasm aren't the same thing. Why do we need all these crappy forms of alternate currency? I don't want bit coins, microsoft points, paypal discounts and gift certificates in my game. I have those annoyances in RL already.

The price of airlixers is dropping because the number of people who have them has outweighed the number of people who need them. A clever developer would calculate the correct amount of plasm to inject into the system so that most people still want to use it for gear and a few use it as a secondary market to make gil.

Right now, there are a few people who have access to a crap load of plasm and nothing to spend it on but airlixers and a crap load of people who have no delve gear to use airlixers on. This causes people who have airlixers to cut prices in an effort to sell them before they totally tank. That needs to be balanced out or airlixers will eventually end up at 5k next to kabobs in bazaars.

To be honest, I'm not sure why anybody would care if they do. It's not like every airlixer holds a tiny locket with a picture of my dead grandma smiling in a filed or something. Why the sentimental value on such a new disposable item? Just because the people who pride themselves in being able to make mad loot in this game would be inconvenienced by having to find a new way to make mad loot? If you let them tell it, they would look forward to the challenge.

That brings us to shanks et al.

Why is this in the discussion? Are we really comparing an item that you get just for standing in jeuno all day while you're at work to a currency that you have to participate in several annoying events for upwards of 5 hours a piece to get? why? Of course the one that offers you a 1% chance at an item is worth less than airlixer +2s. No one can prove that they have ever won anything because they had a D ring. The damage - from magic evasion on bald gear is probably worth more. Not only that, but the drop rate is so crap that only die hards will even have the patience to care if they have that item. Most people would almost pay you to take the headache of standing in line to pop one.

I asked that question before. Why do we have all these different currencies when Gil was the only currency we had from previous FF games. But then again we never had RMT. I would also assume different areas would be the same as the world. Why USA uses Dollars, JPs uses Yen, EU uses Euro?

Drop rate sucks based on the amount of people are on the server. I don't think it's the drop rate that sucks. It's the competition that makes it worse. Regardless of when the drop happens, it's if you get that drop or not vs the other people. Everyone just hides behind "Luck" as the factor rather than see it as 1 item dropping across X amount of people.

Shanks was an example thrown in about supply and demand, speed rate and time factor which was compared to how more plasm would speed up the game faster.

Also Airelixers would fluxuate in price if Plasm wasn't so easy to earn. In the way that Gil effects the economy. Just we have more ways to spend Gil than plasm.

[FrankReynolds]

I asked that question before. Why do we have all these different currencies when Gil was the only currency we had from previous FF games. But then again we never had RMT.

Drop rate sucks based on the amount of people are on the server. I don't think it's the drop rate that sucks. It's the competition that makes it worse. Regardless of when the drop happens, it's if you get that drop or not vs the other people. Everyone just hides behind "Luck" as the factor rather than see it as 1 item dropping across X amount of people.

I don't know, I'm not saying the amount of plasm we named was the correct amount. That's up to someone with far more time on their hands to determine.

All I'm saying is that plasm is inaccessible to the vast majority of players who don't have organized shells and or time/ motivation to make / join PUGs. If all the necessary gear is to come from organized events, then the game is dead because evidence and logic tells us that the game is not organized, so the idea that people might be able to easily buy this stuff off bazaars / AHs soon really isn't bad news to anyone but horders.

[Daemon]

I don't know, I'm not saying the amount of plasm we named was the correct amount. That's up to someone with far more time on their hands to determine.

All I'm saying is that plasm is inaccessible to the vast majority of players who don't have organized shells and or time/ motivation to make / join PUGs. If all the necessary gear is to come from organized events, then the game is dead because evidence and logic tells us that the game is not organized, so the idea that people might be able to easily buy this stuff off bazaars / AHs soon really isn't bad news to anyone but horders.

Well to me I think Plasm is a Delve reward. Bayld is the overall currency for SoA. Doesn't make any sense to me to take a reward from 1 area and add it on to another. I don't see Wildskeeper Reives related to Delve in any way.

This is why I said surely there has to be other reward ideas than plasm. You say plasm is inaccessible to the vast majority of those who are not in organized linkshells etc.

To me sounds like those people never join Delve events. Which I would wonder then what's the point in having plasm if they cannot join Delve to earn Kis, purchase gear and upgrade their items? Anyone who can earn boss Kis should be able to know how to join a Delve Plasm party by now.

Recent update added extra stats onto Bayld gear. New Skirmish is coming soon with nice interesting equipment. Which I think is more than enough gear to enter a plasm farming party. I mean... It's only plasm farming.

[Daemon]

Why do we need all these crappy forms of alternate currency?

Forgot to mention. It's better to start everyone at 0, on a new currency out of fairness. Otherwise if it was 1 currency, those who have more will surpass everyone who has less. Which will be another reason to bring up elitist arguments. Makes it easier for the DEVs to calculate estimates too.

[Demon6324236]

Just shut up already. Fix the damn WKs, end of story, they are stupid amounts of work & require stupid amounts of people for some of us to walk away with nothing at the end of the fight, simple as that.

[FrankReynolds]

Just shut up already. Fix the damn WKs, end of story, they are stupid amounts of work & require stupid amounts of people for some of us to walk away with nothing at the end of the fight, simple as that.

That too...

[Daemon]

Just shut up already. Fix the damn WKs, end of story, they are stupid amounts of work & require stupid amounts of people for some of us to walk away with nothing at the end of the fight, simple as that.

Yes FIX WR without killing off other areas of the game and adding the same rewards you get from other places.

And please don't give us ways to speed up our progress. I'm actually enjoying the game for having things to do. I did not enjoy sitting in town all day playing only 1 event (VoidWatch) as the main focus of the game at 99.

Thank you.

[Demon6324236]

Yes FIX WR without killing off other areas of the game and adding the same rewards you get from other places.

Yes, because why would I make a Plasm farm party by shouting for 18 people and make 10k Plasm a hour when I could go round up 150 people for a Yumcax to get me 25k Plasm in 10 hours!?

I'm actually enjoying the game for having things to do. I did not enjoy sitting in town all day playing only 1 event (VoidWatch) as the main focus of the game at 99.

You know why you enjoy the game? Your not on the damn thing, you never get on, as many people have said, you go do 10 Yumcax, get a neck 10 times in a row, and come back here and tell us its how it should be, maybe then your word will carry more weight. Till then, you haven't done the content, you did 1 Hurkan that I know of, 1, and the one we joined was a very fast, very easy Hurkan with a lot of people, it was the second fastest Hurkan I have ever joined out of 7, the longest being 6 hours long, your experience is minor, and pathetic, so to me, your word on this topic means nothing.

[Daemon]

Yes, because why would I make a Plasm farm party by shouting for 18 people and make 10k Plasm a hour when I could go round up 150 people for a Yumcax to get me 25k Plasm in 10 hours!?

Is that the full truth or are you overexaggerating? You know very well even I saw Yumcax shout drop 4% HP in less than 3 minutes the other morning. No matter who overexaggerates examples doesn't matter to me but presenting facts to the DEVs who implemented and know the math, requirements and difficulty know very well how they made their conditions.

You know why you enjoy the game? Your not on the damn thing, you never get on, as many people have said, you go do 10 Yumcax, get a neck 10 times in a row, and come back here and tell us its how it should be, maybe then your word will carry more weight. Till then, you haven't done the content, you did 1 Hurkan that I know of, 1, and the one we joined was a very fast, very easy Hurkan with a lot of people, it was the second fastest Hurkan I have ever joined out of 7, the longest being 6 hours long, your experience is minor, and pathetic, so to me, your word on this topic means nothing.

I'm disappointed in you DJ. Regardless if I'm on or not. I think playing since day 1 gives me enough common sense to see the same mechanics of every event to know how WR works. I don't have to play 20 hours a day to have common sense over the same system being implemented in WR.

The difference between you and me? You play this event over and over and each failure gives you rage and more disappointment than me playing once in awhile and not caring about failure..

And your rage and anger is really showing.

[Demon6324236]

Is that the full truth or are you overexaggerating?

Yeah, I took 10 hours 1 day to do a Yumcax, do all of them take that long? No, but I have never seen a WK Reive that died faster than 3 hours besides...

You know very well even I saw Yumcax shout drop 4% HP in less than 3 minutes the other morning.

Yeah, that one, I actually joined that one when I was dead tired. Under the idea I said a minute ago, you have to cap your Bayld to get Plasm, I would have gotten none, you know why? The battle went so fast that even though I was healing a party of people, I got 7k Bayld, out of the 25k cap, so I would have had to get 18k more Bayld before I would have gotten a single bit of Plasm under the stipulation I added.

I'm disappointed in you DJ. Regardless if I'm on or not. I think playing since day 1 gives me enough common sense to see the same mechanics of every event to know how WR works. I don't have to play 20 hours a day to have common sense over the same system being implemented in WR.

Being on and participating in an event has every bit to do with giving feedback on it. Just because I did normal Nyzul does not mean I could give feedback on NNI if I had not done it, why, simple, because I had not done it. You have done your fair share of WoE, which I think of as the predecessor to this event, but just because you have experience with one, does not mean you do with the other. As I said, do more WKs, see how shit the rewards are, then come back here & tell us how great it is, how it should be this way, till you experience it, don't try to justify it.

The difference between you and me? You play this event over and over and each failure gives you rage and more disappointment than me playing once in awhile and not caring about failure..

Yes, I feel my determination being punished with each attempt, and people like you without much time will be without the items no matter if I get it now, or a year from now, because if its a 1 in 100 chance, Ill get 100 chances in that time while you get 10, another of the holes in your previous argument about the content dying.

And your rage and anger is really showing.

So be it then, as I said, the very thinking that seems to be present here offends me, and yes, the offense angers me.