a thought

[Melraen]

You know that it takes 18 people, costs money to enter takes 45 minutes + and can earn a group $50+ million right? Why would anyone bring someone that "Could" beat it when they could bring someone who "Has" beat it?

When I need my faucet fixed, I don't bring in any guy with a plumbers crack just cuz he looks like he might be handy with a wrench. I bring in the guy with the big truck that says "Plumber" on the side cuz I know he's gonna get the job done.

Any time they make content that requires more than one person, the community decides who can and can't do it. The community has decided that no matter how awesome you are at Thief, you won't be coming unless you put down that Evasion Thocktcha, switch to monk and throw on some Oats.

Ah, my mistake then. If it's about profit and not just getting clears, then I can certainly understand why people would defend it and be happy with how it is. A lot of people tend to get much more selfish where gil is involved, sadly. =/

Still, I'd have thought that helping people out with the content would produce more people with said gear, enabling shout groups to be filled quicker, and overall saving time. Seems like it's a case of "If you haven't beaten it and don't have the gear from it, then that's your problem, not ours.", which seems kind of sad to me.

I'm sure I used to hear people talk about what a wonderful community FFXI has, but looking at these forums lately, it doesn't seem like many of the people that gave it that reputation are still around. ; ;

[Secondplanet]

Ah, my mistake then. If it's about profit and not just getting clears, then I can certainly understand why people would defend it and be happy with how it is. A lot of people tend to get much more selfish where gil is involved, sadly. =/

Still, I'd have thought that helping people out with the content would produce more people with said gear, enabling shout groups to be filled quicker, and overall saving time. Seems like it's a case of "If you haven't beaten it and don't have the gear from it, then that's your problem, not ours.", which seems kind of sad to me.

I'm sure I used to hear people talk about what a wonderful community FFXI has, but looking at these forums lately, it doesn't seem like many of the people that gave it that reputation are still around. ; ;

thats why i'm loosing interest in this game, its a stain on the Final Fantasy name, Final Fantasy has always been about a group of people banning together and helping each other out in the name of greater good. I try everyday to help atleast 2 people out with shouts, let it be a LB10 or just simple Can i get a alchemists help please. I never charge for help and am always glad to give it, even when i farm stuff from abyssea, if it involves a megaboss or catcue?? i shout that if anyone wants the win to come along, most times they walk away with free loot.

[bloodbeat]

Ah, my mistake then. If it's about profit and not just getting clears, then I can certainly understand why people would defend it and be happy with how it is. A lot of people tend to get much more selfish where gil is involved, sadly. =/

Still, I'd have thought that helping people out with the content would produce more people with said gear, enabling shout groups to be filled quicker, and overall saving time. Seems like it's a case of "If you haven't beaten it and don't have the gear from it, then that's your problem, not ours.", which seems kind of sad to me.

I'm sure I used to hear people talk about what a wonderful community FFXI has, but looking at these forums lately, it doesn't seem like many of the people that gave it that reputation are still around. ; ;

There's still helpful players ingame. They just aren't sufficient in number or organisation to make a difference to players that need to overcome some of these new content obstacles.
But it is understandable to think that the community has stagnated when you read some of these posts.
The Dev Team need to get on this access divide and introduce easier and slower, lowman/solo avenues to allow people to get up to code, not just for this content but for any crazy new content they have in the pipeline, because this issue is not going to fix itself.

[Daemon]

There's still helpful players ingame. They just aren't sufficient in number or organisation to make a difference to players that need to overcome some of these new content obstacles.
But it is understandable to think that the community has stagnated when you read some of these posts.
The Dev Team need to get on this access divide and introduce easier and slower, lowman/solo avenues to allow people to get up to code, not just for this content but for any crazy new content they have in the pipeline, because this issue is not going to fix itself.

And yet I've spent so much time joining Tax'et parties as a RDM even though I don't need the win but to help those who need the kis.

[bloodbeat]

And yet I've spent so much time joining Tax'et parties as a RDM even though I don't need the win but to help those who need the kis.

Like I said, the help is there but it is too dilute. You're 1/17 requirements for a single player needing this content. If you happen to have a guaranteed network that fulfills those other spaces then that's great, but that's not my experience.
As I'm writing this there are 945 players active in Bismarck. Doesn't that strike the dev team as somewhat unfavourable when organising alliance events?

[Daemon]

Like I said, the help is there but it is too dilute. You're 1/17 requirements for a single player needing this content. If you happen to have a guaranteed network that fulfills those other spaces then that's great, but that's not my experience.
As I'm writing this there are 945 players active in Bismarck. Doesn't that strike the dev team as somewhat unfavourable when organising alliance events?

Yeah it's true, not many people are willing to go out of their way to help others when people have a million things they need to get done. However I try to keep in mind that the people I'm helping will someday be people ill be partying with in the future so it's nice to make friends with everybody and not just the ones who are already at the end.