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    Musketeer Chapeau (RDM AF4 hat)

    +20 Int +20 Mnd +10 magic accuracy
    Adds Refresh (2mp/tick)
    Enhances Fast Cast

    Something like that to replace all of them into one piece for the sake of our storage and minds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectreman View Post
    Musketeer Chapeau (RDM AF4 hat)

    +20 Int +20 Mnd +10 magic accuracy
    Adds Refresh (2mp/tick)
    Enhances Fast Cast

    Something like that to replace all of them into one piece for the sake of our storage and minds.
    You are forgetting that relic AF2 hat has augments Dia III & Slow II
    Af3 has enfeebling cast time and augments composure
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    Last edited by Daemon; 07-26-2013 at 03:33 PM.

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    Not only forgetting that, but you'll have to put that iLvL garbage on it too.

    So you want 50 STR 50 VIT 50 DEX 50 AGI 80 MND 80 CHR 80 INT
    + 200 MACC + 300 Enfeebling skill + 3 refresh, + fast cast, + haste + DW + MEVA + magic damage + +++++++
    HP+500 MP + 1000 .... /disgust.

    OH and + 288 sword skill for those RDM melee (I gotcha loves~)
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    This is just me being... old? I guess... But AF1, AF2, and AF3 are quests, so AF4 makes no since to me... Not that I don't fully understand what you are suggesting. But then again, Artifact, Relic, and Empyrean are not even on par with one another. Although all three do represent the job in there own way. But how would you even go about this? would you have to bring them all up to there full potential first? Because many people are already complaining that they have to spend more time in Dynamis to fully upgrade Relic as is. But don't get me wrong, Ive always liked the idea of full time gear and this looks like the best way to accomplish it, but I guess what I'm most worried about is what it will look like. I know a lot of players hate THF Artifact, but love the Empyrean, and even more so the look of Empyrean for PLD but awe over the awesomeness of PLD Relic.

    Disclaimer: Not tiring to be a Troll, these just happen to be my thoughts on the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiichi View Post
    This is just me being... old? I guess... But AF1, AF2, and AF3 are quests, so AF4 makes no since to me... Not that I don't fully understand what you are suggesting. But then again, Artifact, Relic, and Empyrean are not even on par with one another. Although all three do represent the job in there own way. But how would you even go about this? would you have to bring them all up to there full potential first? Because many people are already complaining that they have to spend more time in Dynamis to fully upgrade Relic as is. But don't get me wrong, Ive always liked the idea of full time gear and this looks like the best way to accomplish it, but I guess what I'm most worried about is what it will look like. I know a lot of players hate THF Artifact, but love the Empyrean, and even more so the look of Empyrean for PLD but awe over the awesomeness of PLD Relic.

    Disclaimer: Not tiring to be a Troll, these just happen to be my thoughts on the matter.
    Well it would make sense to obtain all AF pieces, fully upgrade them and then maybe have some Magian trial where you bring the AF pieces to have them infused into 1 new AF combing every existing stat of all pieces into 1. SE would have to give us a bigger, better design for an AF4.

    If the design rocks, even just combining the pieces alone would be a big enough reason for people to be motivated in obtaining every piece and fully upgrade all of them.

    This is how I see it. Those who did not complete AF3 would have to go back and make parties to get +2s. Those who need relic exp trials would most likely team up with people in Dyna. And even a reason to go back and do limbus. Which would mean older content would be made relevant again.

    Look at how big this would be? We know inventory is a major issue for all of us at level 99 with multi jobs and have several gear sets. If SE gave us the opportunity to free up space, combine all pieces into 1 new AF set. No more carrying several pieces of gear, less macros means less gear swaps, and less time going through moogle slips to take out all other sets.

    You would only have to take out 1 set or even just carry it with you at all times if its a job you always play.

    That would be a big win for everyone. Who wouldn't want that? And maybe if SE gave additional stats to be on par with SoA, even better.

    Otherwise yeah carry multiple gear sets with several AF pieces taking up so much inventory... Spend several minutes going through each moogle slip to pull out AF every time you need it for the job you are going to play... Especially if you are playing several jobs.. How many macros do you use to switch between AF pieces? On my RDM I have one for AF2 body AF2 hat, AF2 Body AF3 Hat, AF3 body AF2 Hat etc...

    We already know SE cannot raise inventory cap above 80 due to memory issues from PS2 limitations. So there's no hope for that unless they drop PS2 and recode the entire game to a higher platform. Atleast I was giving a good solution.

    REM is totally different in this situation. We are only talking about 3 weapons vs more than 15 pieces of gear depending on jobs that have ammo, waist, back, accessories.

    Oh and Dyna exp trial is easy. Can duo with another DD using emperor band and subbing corsair for Cosair roll for additional EXP bonus taking on decent challenge mobs. Can earn 20k exp in no time.
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    Last edited by Daemon; 07-26-2013 at 05:24 PM.

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    I think it'd be a fun idea to implement this into a new set of artifact armor for all jobs, but um...will all of these combined stats fit into the given text boxes? That's my only concern. I'm all for it, but I don't truly think they'd do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anjou View Post
    will all of these combined stats fit into the given text boxes?

    One would think by looking at this, that yes, they would.
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    I just want an all in one drg headpiece or at least an upgraded one that I don't have to switch two helmets for...... 50% proc with all the bonuses that come with
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    Well if they are starting to make items with +22 all stats and tons of accuracy/maccuracy why not just give us an event where we can combine 5 bonuses from af1/2/3?

    We could also choose which model we could be using with those combined stats. Honestly i never liked anything besides duelist gear for rdm. But thats me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectreman View Post
    Well if they are starting to make items with +22 all stats and tons of accuracy/maccuracy why not just give us an event where we can combine 5 bonuses from af1/2/3?

    We could also choose which model we could be using with those combined stats. Honestly i never liked anything besides duelist gear for rdm. But thats me.
    AF relic body +2 body gives you +20 seconds added to Chainspell. It's a noticeable difference
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