ATTN DEVS: WE WANT NEW WEAPONS FOR 99 NOT RELICS AND MYTHICS

[Randwolf]

Even if I agreed with the OP, and maybe I do, posting pretty much the same topic thread time after time would make me want to disagree with anything he said.

[Bigboy]

Just as a reminder to those who think relics are unobtainable. Dynamis is being reworked to a zone you can work with as a party. Declaring relics unobtainable in the current state of the game, might be true for you at this moment, but the future patch may change that. Once that happens, I will be interested to see how many people will still be making the argument that they don't want relics any more. It is a ways off, but they have at least proclaimed the intention.

[Detoxy]

Post on this if you do not want mythics and relics to be the best 99 weapons in game.

Do you remember how hard it was getting people to help you get your AF 1 set of gear the first time around? It was bloody hard. Then at 75 all of that gear became second rate to wear, making its way to macro'd use because AF2 and +1 gear was the norm for lvl 75.

Relics by far was the most expensive, cut throat, drama, and painful thing in the game to get. Was it a faiir value of time compared to reward? Most definatly not. Even back in the early days of FFXI it wasnt worth (time spent = reward) getting because of the cost, and all that drama that surrounded getting one. But some people thought, since they want to have the best of the best gear, they would bow before the SE devs and prove they could get one. Your reward was you got to walk around with the best weapon in the entire game while you were 75.

The level cap was not raised for well over 8 years. Which is very rare for any mmo to not have a level increase in that amount of time. You were able to run around a game being the best of the best for that long depending on how early after release you got it. You had atleast a years warning that the level increase to 99 was going to happen. So if you chose to get your relic during that time, you had a fair warning that your weapon was going to be obsolete in one year, and you should try for it at your own risk.

Farming for O-hat was a pain in the butt. It would usually take days to get, then you had to get someone to craft your eyeballs, and an entire alliance to help you kill a monster for it. It was a pain in the butt to get everyone together to do it, but those who decided that they wanted to be the best of the best for head gear, went through all that trouble just to get the O-hat. Thier reward was being able to have the best head gear in the game for as long as they were 75.

The list could go on with every item that SE said lets make the (time spent = reward) so far out that it wasnt worth the time spent. SE did this with almost every aspect of the FFXI game. emp hairpin, lizzy boots, back in the day or when gil sellers would farm your sky spawn items making it weeks for average shells to obtain.

Things were not fun all the time to get and I really do feel your pain if you did not buy gil or step on people to get these items. I think what every relic holder should be happy about, is that these days of timespent does not equal reward are over and happy weapons like emps exist. That xp got easier to obtain. That people can have more haste easier now. That more people can be good geared and better hitting without spending years to get to this point.

If SE decides tommarow to make the best lvl 99 weapon in game accessable to everyone with only 1 or 2 months of farming mobs, whats so wrong with that? Why wouldnt you be happy that everyone in the game is happy and can help you fight things and missions with great weapons and gear? Do you have to be the only people who are better then everyone else based on an old system of time spent does not equal reward system? Why wouldnt you be happy that everyone in a shell is rewarded as euqally as you are?

If you want to take relics and say because of time spent wasnt worth the reward and apply it to experience points, well then by all fairness I should be asking SE to give me Ten Jobs for free because I leveled one Job to max lvl the slow time spent way.

I'm glad we moved past these days where time spent did not equal the reward and moving to a more time spent = the reward. I do not feel the need to ask for my time spent in those days to be rewarded in the days that are now going to be much much more worth time spent = reward.

o look another thread bashing mythic and relic u know if ur crying about it its because u cant obtain 1 all u want is a ez to get overpowered weapon so stop crying and get some real work done for a chng

[Flunklesnarkin]

I already posted this in the feedback / suggestion thread...

but everybody claiming to have the desires of 90% of the ffxi community on their side are delusional..

There is no way you can know the desires of the community without some form of poll..

and most people won't bother posting in threads because they think its pointless to cry about what may or may not be.


A poll system would help people gauge the interest in certain changes.. doesn't even have to be complicated...

A simple bar chart that display results would be super awesome and get rid of a lot of the

"I speak for the community" type threads.

[Frost]

I already posted this in the feedback / suggestion thread...

but everybody claiming to have the desires of 90% of the ffxi community on their side are delusional..

There is no way you can know the desires of the community without some form of poll..

and most people won't bother posting in threads because they think its pointless to cry about what may or may not be.


A poll system would help people gauge the interest in certain changes.. doesn't even have to be complicated...

A simple bar chart that display results would be super awesome and get rid of a lot of the

"I speak for the community" type threads.

Do you speak for the community when you say this?

[Flunklesnarkin]

Do you speak for the community when you say this?

I think i speak for common sense when i suggest this..

The way to gauge peoples views on a subject is a poll...

I hardly considered this a controversial idea.. unless information scares you?

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[Baccanale]

Greetings, everyone!
It seems that there was another thread like this one that was started earlier, so I will make sure to lock this thread. If you would like to further discuss this matter, please go this thread:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ght=rid+relics

Thank you for your participation!