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    Player Anjou's Avatar
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    Increase to drop rates on old content stuff please?

    I know it's selfish, I know it sounds dumb, but what's the point of it by this point? People are getting super powerful weapons like candy, and yet when I try to get something outdated, the drop rate is just horrendous. I'm not talking about a few items, I'm talking all of the rare/ex stuff that drops from specific nm's, give them at least like a 30% increase, because some things will never drop and people get screwed out of hours of work.
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    please tell us where people are getting these weapons like candy, last I checked people are complaining because stuffs not dropping like candy.... they are having just as a bad time getting drops as you..
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    Player Anjou's Avatar
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    H2H delve, people have weapons like this. Delve swords, delve GS/GK, I can keep going Umichi, I truly can. Every DRK I see they typically have Bereaver, or any MNK/PUP has those H2H.

    These are the kinds of things that irk the crap out of me, you waste hours or even a whole day for a chance at a 7% chance at drop, only to continue repeating the cycle until you lose your mind.
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    There is a reason why drop rates are made to be time consuming. If every single player could get any rare item in 1 day, what next? Then the entire server will be complaining about wanting new items, new content. Although competing with 18 people per alliance doesn't help in a specific person getting an item, I think SE should adjust the drop system because I've seen many many many times 1 person getting all of the good drops than a fair distribution among everyone in the alliance.

    The other day playing NNI, 1 player got every single drop vs the 5 others in party. How many times you see 1 person getting HMP multiple times doing Qilin? Or the same person getting 2 ogiers? Or 2 rubeus spats? Obviously there is a flaw in the drop system that SE needs to take a closer look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anjou View Post
    H2H delve, people have weapons like this. Delve swords, delve GS/GK, I can keep going Umichi, I truly can. Every DRK I see they typically have Bereaver, or any MNK/PUP has those H2H.

    These are the kinds of things that irk the crap out of me, you waste hours or even a whole day for a chance at a 7% chance at drop, only to continue repeating the cycle until you lose your mind.
    Um most people did not get delve weapons as a drop. They earned plasm and bought it for 30k plasm.

    Doing 4 plasm runs if your party can yield 9k each run is enough to buy 1 delve weapon which is about 4 hours.
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    Last edited by Daemon; 07-25-2013 at 07:56 PM.

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    Yeah Polearm, Bow, GK, H2H, Dagger, SMN staff, Miki Plate, Miki legs, Miki feet, SMN ammo. All bought from plasm farming. It took hours upon hours to get that. That's what? 275k plasm? Yes good parties can pull down a lot, but you usualy end up in an average party or 5k or worse. So I spent a good 60+ runs farming all of that which is 45hours of play time and that's just to buy them. Not to mention you need nearly 300k plasm just to max out one.(Or 10m.) So you're looking at an average of 66 runs per item, which is 49:30 hours. That's not including party building, transit times or attempts at obtain the KI in the first place. Personaly I went 1/18 on Tax'et. That all seems pretty comperable to me.

    What SE realy needs to do is look at how all NMs are spawned. They've already proven that the can readily alter the conditions. I.e. The 3 HNMs. I think everything should be a forced pop, even if it's a fame based, one time quest item.
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    I was 1/137 spurrer beret, three years of killing the 16-minute placeholder for hours just for dark crystals, until this year it finally dropped. I wish I could say it was a fun but actually it was kind of depressing after 0/100.
    I also know ppl who are 0/100 on Twi Mail, getting blue 75% of the time and TH9 every time. Some drops are just luck based coz I know other ppl who got Mail 1/1 with no proc. But for the ones who are 0/100 and farming a new primeval brew every time, its kind of soul destroying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stompa View Post
    I was 1/137 spurrer beret, three years of killing the 16-minute placeholder for hours just for dark crystals, until this year it finally dropped. I wish I could say it was a fun but actually it was kind of depressing after 0/100.
    I also know ppl who are 0/100 on Twi Mail, getting blue 75% of the time and TH9 every time. Some drops are just luck based coz I know other ppl who got Mail 1/1 with no proc. But for the ones who are 0/100 and farming a new primeval brew every time, its kind of soul destroying.
    0/2000+ coruscanti. I don't have any reason to persue this any longer. Might as well get a delve dagger instead.

    Edit: The amount of time it takes to build a party, Cruor spent on cells, chance of getting the dagger itself vs watching either someone who doesn't even need it or has gotten the dagger already to pulse it in your face. Sorry not even worth it. SE this is the biggest utter failure part of Voidwatch.
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    Last edited by Daemon; 07-25-2013 at 09:58 PM.

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    Player Anjou's Avatar
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    So it's fair that a mob is over 48 hours of waiting, then you go to camp and wait at most a full day, only to get nothing but khimaira horn/mane? If it was too easy I could understand, but the nm itself is still a tough customer today, why not up his drop rate, or hey I have an idea, decrease his respawn rate,

    Edit: Sure it takes time and work to get a delve weapon, bu that's a guaranteed thing. These drops are not guaranteed, in fact they are miserable to the point that I just recently gave up on Khimaira altogether since I can just get Tourbillion from Nyzul, why not just stop hunting the sword altogether and never have to worry about wasting precious days of my life? Do you think anyone likes going through this kind of frustration? Making LS friends come out, waste their hours only to turn up nothing? I'm sorry but that's just stupid and I really feel something needs to be done to promote people coming back to old content.
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    Last edited by Anjou; 07-26-2013 at 02:28 AM.

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    With the new exspansion there really is no need for the horrible drop rates in the old system. It's why I won't do void watch anymore.
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