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    Quote Originally Posted by Khale View Post
    Huh. Seems pretty clear to me. Keep your nose clean, and SE won't ban you. The fine print is only there for people who are trying to find loopholes.

    Which, it would seem, is what everybody is doing.
    Which is why simply "Keep your nose clean" is not sufficient, because a lot of these people believe they are doing exactly that.

    The problem is, as the OP noted, that is not even sufficient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth
    Also, Khale, it's a little less clear than that.

    But it is clear cut.

    Quote Originally Posted by Member Agreement Section 3.1c/d
    (c) SEI reserves the right to terminate PlayOnline Service in whole or in part for any reason with or without prior notice.
    (d) SEI MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE ANY PLAYONLINE ACCOUNT AT ANY TIME, WITH ANY REASON OR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE.
    SE can ban your shit, and they don't even need a reason.Gardening bans/salvage dups/leveling nakied in the dunes, these are all bannable offenses.

    Incidentally, why would you accept the ToS if you didn't understand it? Sounds pretty silly to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khale View Post
    But it is clear cut.



    SE can ban your shit, and they don't even need a reason.Gardening bans/salvage dups/leveling nakied in the dunes, these are all bannable offenses.

    Incidentally, why would you accept the ToS if you didn't understand it? Sounds pretty silly to me.
    Oh? If it's that clear cut, why have any part of the ToS beyond that section?

    Might as well just say, "Hey, you don't like it get bant!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrth View Post
    Oh? If it's that clear cut, why have any part of the ToS beyond that section?

    Might as well just say, "Hey, you don't like it get bant!"

    Pretty much. Companies don't like making things simple. Naturally, they make it much longer to sway the majority of people from reading how they have no rights to the goods they just purchased. Hurts business, I'd imagine.

    I could totally be mistaken, but the gardening bans happened because they were selling their useless stuff to the same NPC that RMT were using in Bastok Mines.

    Pretty sure you won't find 'SELLING STUFFZ TO GALKAS IS BANNABLE' in the ToS. Totally should be, though.
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