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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Except, you have no real data to say its no different. Your saying its still bad is hardly a fair statement if your experience since the update is nearly non-existent.
    Ok, well all already know you're a retard like your buddy who finally left. You don't read any, and you reply to every post just like he did.

    So you can stop any time now. You never have anything of any value to input, just douchebaggery and wasted posts.

    WKRs are still crap, bottom line. Never under any circumstance should your only reward be a "crafting item" unless it's of Scarletite or Ormolu caliber.

    If you disagree with that, you don't deserve to post anymore. Bayld is not a reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celoria View Post
    A load of trash talk
    You complain that everything dies too fast for you to get an evaluation, then you instantly follow it up with "If I don't get it now, noone will be doing it anymore so I'll never get it done." Make your mind up. It will level out now, and unlike in the past people will continue to do the event as there are AHable/RME upgrade rewards now.

    And as for not being able to engage and voke a mob before it dies, you select attack, then immediately hit voke macro, the mob will come to you while you experience your lockout, so as long as you're facing the mob, you'll get an attack round in.

    Mages are generally using low-tier nukes so that mob doesn't doe before they finish casting (and to save MP), so voke will pull hate. Multple BLMs all casting a T1 nuke, stil only get the individual hate of 1 T1 nuke each, it's not cumulative, just because mob's HP drops substantially.

    Since you're going DRK, I'd personally go /RDM. This gives you Fast Cast, Refresh, Cures, Stun for hate/stopping the mob running from you, a bit of MAB so you too can nuke (shock, horror, yes you can join in the mage's own game. Remember your own ilvl weapon gets plenty of Magic Acc on it too). And of course, you can convert to give you some points for curing yourself^^

    Now, stop being so aggressive to others on the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    You complain that everything dies too fast for you to get an evaluation, then you instantly follow it up with "If I don't get it now, noone will be doing it anymore so I'll never get it done." Make your mind up. It will level out now, and unlike in the past people will continue to do the event as there are AHable/RME upgrade rewards now.

    And as for not being able to engage and voke a mob before it dies, you select attack, then immediately hit voke macro, the mob will come to you while you experience your lockout, so as long as you're facing the mob, you'll get an attack round in.

    Mages are generally using low-tier nukes so that mob doesn't doe before they finish casting (and to save MP), so voke will pull hate. Multple BLMs all casting a T1 nuke, stil only get the individual hate of 1 T1 nuke each, it's not cumulative, just because mob's HP drops substantially.

    Since you're going DRK, I'd personally go /RDM. This gives you Fast Cast, Refresh, Cures, Stun for hate/stopping the mob running from you, a bit of MAB so you too can nuke (shock, horror, yes you can join in the mage's own game. Remember your own ilvl weapon gets plenty of Magic Acc on it too). And of course, you can convert to give you some points for curing yourself^^

    Now, stop being so aggressive to others on the forum.
    You're so wrong on almost all accounts, it's kinda comical.

    The people spamming the magic, claim the mobs with stone I before they even pop. So they have more enmity than Provoke generates before you can even target said mob. So when you Provoke it, it does NOT come to you. Not even for one second. Then a second mage casts Stone I and a twelfth mage casts stone I and it's dead, .5 seconds after it appears on screen.

    NO ONE will continue to do WKR, the sellable drops are all 100% garbage. With the minor exception of Toro Cape, which btw is for mages. (and some other things that are rarely used anymore).

    Though, I do agree that someone who can't get evals can infact melee the megaboss for 0 damage and still get an eval. Also, can sub blm/rdm/sch and get nukes in too, but that is really lame to have to do.

    One more point of interest, I'm not going to advertise this more by explaining details, but you can make 30,000 bayld in 10 minutes. So go to the WKR hit the MB for 0 damage 10 times, get 1 eval for 200 exp then just afk.

    You WILL get the same reward, and not waste your time trying to do something that cannot be done. Then go make triple the bayld in 1/10th the time.
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    Last edited by Karah; 11-13-2013 at 04:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karah View Post
    You're so wrong on almost all accounts, it's kinda comical.

    The people spamming the magic, claim the mobs with stone I before they even pop.
    That's right, because every mage in WKR is botting.

    I go on THF when I CBA to change jobs, and I can flee around the zone until I see a mob pop. Even if it's on the other side of the arena I can be engaged on it before it dies, especially if you have a source of stun. The mob dying too fast isn't the issue, it's the mob jumping from player to player and never standing still.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karah View Post
    So they have more enmity than Provoke generates before you can even target said mob. So when you Provoke it, it does NOT come to you. Not even for one second. Then a second mage casts Stone I and a twelfth mage casts stone I and it's dead, .5 seconds after it appears on screen.
    Admittedly, I have all damage filtered, so I can't say for sure how much damage they are actually dealing, but a 500 dmg stone 1 with -30 enmity is less enmity than provoke. A 400 damage stone only needs -14 enmity to create less enmity than provoke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karah View Post
    NO ONE will continue to do WKR, the sellable drops are all 100% garbage. With the minor exception of Toro Cape, which btw is for mages. (and some other things that are rarely used anymore).
    And the rme pouches that you can go and do even if you're solo with no hassle of setting up a party. Also, some people will continue to do Hurkan over 41 times, trying to get the drop that they want, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karah View Post
    Though, I do agree that someone who can't get evals can infact melee the megaboss for 0 damage and still get an eval. Also, can sub blm/rdm/sch and get nukes in too, but that is really lame to have to do.

    One more point of interest, I'm not going to advertise this more by explaining details, but you can make 30,000 bayld in 10 minutes. So go to the WKR hit the MB for 0 damage 10 times, get 1 eval for 200 exp then just afk.

    You WILL get the same reward, and not waste your time trying to do something that cannot be done. Then go make triple the bayld in 1/10th the time.
    If you're only doing 1 eval, it probably explains why you aren't getting drops from Hurkan. I heard that you need 2k min for an eval, though I got the helm from Kamihr with only 1200 (I got there late).
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    No, Bayld alone is not, I never said it is. I have read everything you said, and you never provided a number of fights after the update which you have done, only 33 total between now and when Hurkan was released, which if the majority or every single one dropped nothing but pebbles and bullets it doesn't mean anything because no one knows how many kills are on what side of that update, you could have killed those 3 extra times, it happened 3 times cause your unlucky and boom, it sucks still. That is why I am replying, your complaining it still sucks after 33 kills throwing around a number which makes 0 difference on anything because it does not give any info on the true number of kills since the update which would have to be compared to the number before the update.

    Also, providing those ingots as drops would be great, providing them every fight, which is what you imply saying they should be the only crafting items, or only items of their level, well, on Phoenix there are about 100 people in every WK, depending on which it is, some get up to 300+, you want to see a price crash just put in that update, those prices will take a dive from 3~9M to 10k real fast when 20 people or more every WK Reive walk away with one.

    But ya know what, fine, complain about them, I have had no issues with them at all, I haven't really seen friends complain about getting nothing like they used to either, they get the Rare accessories and crafting items even if they don't get the drop they want, better than it was by far, cheaper, shorter, easier fights, more items you can get which do not do what we feared and push our chances at getting what we want even lower. I keep getting items every time I go, the R items I don't need I send myself or put on AH and then do it again, if nothing else I make a little money from it, the battles are only 10 minutes, running 3 runs real fast for Scouts gets me all the Bayld I need for another if I ever run out, then I continue.

    If you honestly get nothing of worth, sucks to be you I suppose, but your attitude makes it insanely difficult to feel at all sorry for you, and I don't have any issues personally that I have come across while I have been fighting them, so I cant complain. Bit of advice, if you get nothing but craft items every time, you have the rare items in your inventory, send them to yourself or sell them so you can get extras and sell those, its not a ton but its some profit, and should ease the annoyance of not getting your head piece.
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    See this is what you fail to grasp.

    Better than nothing > still crap.

    Oh I got Received a "Steaming pile of ****" At least it's "something".

    I don't want rare garbage, I want rare/ex garbage. Specific. Rare/ex garbage. Receiving 34 bullets instead of 34 pebbles is still retarded.

    When you have 9 digit gil, you couldn't care less about a 100k drop.
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    Last edited by Karah; 11-12-2013 at 08:42 AM.

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    Regarding the menu with the NPC "Dimmian," the interface is the worst in the game. Purchasing key items has so many unnecessary delays between prompts and the game should not keep asking you to buy more key items when you already have all of them.
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    I think they should show how much Bayld you have while talking to him too.
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    Hurkan lasts like 5 minutes now, stop complaining.
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    When I came back to the game after quitting, I was book burning in Oubliette. When I saw the kind of damage BLM was doing with just a 4MP Stone, I thought that was pretty broken too. That is until I saw the MNK do 500-600 with one punch. One of the last things the game needs is further imbalances between the benefits of Melee Vs. Magic (a problem that happens in SO many RPG in the melee's favour). FFXI is currently, IMO, one of the closest RPGs I know of that is KIND OF striking a balance the best.

    The solution to fix one event in the game is not to reduce a jobs functionality in all other events.
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