Colonization Reive and Lair Reive Feedback

[FrankReynolds]

After spending 2 hours getting to the Wildskeeper Reive in Yorcia Weald, I am not sure how I feel about Colonation reives anymore. There is a part of me thinking they shouldn't be to easy, then there's another part of me thinking these things are nothing more then a hindrance and the mobs should be made easier on all of them.

I guess when I am trying to get to a Wildskeeper I just want to get there and want everyone else to get there to. Without having to spend 2 hours to get there. Really wish more people would do the colonation reives in Yorcia but even I don't go there because the area is really hard to navigate and the biouvacs are never up.

900 people online atm. Most probably afk. Colonization level 24%. I'll be lucky if I even get to do that one lol.

[detlef]

You guys are so defensive of players afking in colonization reives. Once you afk in a battle zone you put yourself at risk to anything that happens, and you really have no right to complain about mpk, intentional or not. Everybody fighting mobs wants to be in a safe zone, away from respawns. If you afked at KB and got killed by somebody else's meteor, would you call a GM (note that I can't remember if meteor hits people without hate but I recall that it does)?

Aside from that, I've talked to a GM about a GEO intentionally using concentric pulse to wake slept mobs (there weren't many people at that reive, so we could barely make any headway on the rocks with repops without sleeping mobs). The GEO even laughed at me in /say, and it was the third time he had done it. But nothing happened, and I'm sure he wasn't penalized. I highly doubt that GMs are going to go out of their way to protect the rights of afk players.

[FrankReynolds]

You guys are so defensive of players afking in colonization reives. Once you afk in a battle zone you put yourself at risk to anything that happens, and you really have no right to complain about mpk, intentional or not. Everybody fighting mobs wants to be in a safe zone, away from respawns. If you afked at KB and got killed by somebody else's meteor, would you call a GM (note that I can't remember if meteor hits people without hate but I recall that it does)?

Aside from that, I've talked to a GM about a GEO intentionally using concentric pulse to wake slept mobs (there weren't many people at that reive, so we could barely make any headway on the rocks with repops without sleeping mobs). The GEO even laughed at me in /say, and it was the third time he had done it. But nothing happened, and I'm sure he wasn't penalized. I highly doubt that GMs are going to go out of their way to protect the rights of afk players.

Except that these people are afk in places where mobs wouldn't normally kill them. People are going out of their way to kill them just because they hate to see the next gut get something for free. You can justify it any way you want, but the fact of the matter is that you are griefing another player. The only reason you are doing it is to screw the next guy. It has no tangible benefit to the game at large other than to satisfy your desire to watch the world burn.

And feel free to MPK me. Just know that when I see you guys in Wildskeeper reives and I'm dressed in twilight armor that it's because I'm about to drag a hundred mobs over to the summoner / mage parties over and over for the next 6 hours and That I'm taking the same moral stance that you did when you killed me. "They shouldn't have been standing there. They had it coming".

Is that what you want? Does that sound like the right way to play the game? When most servers have lost half their population in the last couple months should we really be going out of our ways to find new ways to screw each other?

There hasn't been a Yorcia wield wildskeep reive on my server in like a week. Can you really fault people for doing everything in their power to get a shot at these things before they go the way of campaign? Has it ever occurred to you that if that guy were fighting, that you would be getting less bayld? The more people afk for their incredibly slow bayld, the less you have to deal with them Fell cleaving all the rocks etc. It's actually better for everyone, since these things clearly don't support the number of people who do them in general.

[dasva]

You guys are so defensive of players afking in colonization reives. Once you afk in a battle zone you put yourself at risk to anything that happens, and you really have no right to complain about mpk, intentional or not.

Actually I have every right to complain about someone breaking the rules in ways that hurt other peoples game play. Hell the main option under GM calls is to complain about rules violations. And will people stop bringing up examples of unintentional mpk. That's not the argument being had and has nothing to do with it.

[detlef]

I'm not advocating MPK or griefing. I'm just saying that if you wake up and you're in Adoulin, you really can't complain.

[Karah]

Actually, MPK was one of the BIGGEST complaints, prior to the recent changes.

It was almost impossible NOT to mpk someone in reive. Now that the first couple zones are changed, mpk isn't an issue, but it still is in the newer zones.

Using the colibri to mimic aga3 to mpk people = hilarious. That is the almost literal use of "mpk". The only better use is waking a slept enemy with an action weak enough to claim it purple, yet not gain enough enmity to have it chase you and kill the sleeper instead.

[dasva]

I accept the unintentional bad. That is part of the risk you take anytime you step out of town. The intentional shouldn't exist

[Twille]

I'm willing to bet SE will make some kind of change with this soon. There is no way SE will let it's player's just stand there afk and benefit.

[FrankReynolds]

I'm willing to bet SE will make some kind of change with this soon. There is no way SE will let it's player's just stand there afk and benefit.

I know right? I mean I had to zone a few times to get enough points for these behemoth pops.

[Bamph]

I know right? I mean I had to zone a few times to get enough points for these behemoth pops.

I agree... It's not like they'd give something to people for doing nothing except for logging in and keeping their character in one place...