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    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyx View Post
    I should have said "with a serious intent to voice there opinion about gear swapping". I'll call myself an idiot I don't mind, but it is quit obvious when Nid, RichardNixon or any other troll on this site posts a thread about something incredibly troll worthy and over 100 people are dumb enough to reply to it like it is real. People need to wake up.
    I think they're doing us a great public service. Some people really are bad enough at FFXI to think gear swapping needs to go. Posting these troll treads allow the general FFXI populace to identify these players so we know who never to take to anything remotely serious in the future. Darwinism, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I think they're doing us a great public service. Some people really are bad enough at FFXI to think gear swapping needs to go. Posting these troll treads allow the general FFXI populace to identify these players so we know who never to take to anything remotely serious in the future. Darwinism, etc.
    To be honest, I didn't even bother to read the OP. The thread was 11+ pages when I first saw it, and I sure didn't expect the thread to still be on-topic after so many pages.

    But yeah, you're right. The OP is a clear troll. Brb combing my hair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I think they're doing us a great public service. Some people really are bad enough at FFXI to think gear swapping needs to go. Posting these troll treads allow the general FFXI populace to identify these players so we know who never to take to anything remotely serious in the future. Darwinism, etc.
    I agree. These people need to let other ppl on their server know that they can't main heal because someone is blinking too much.
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    Cyx has it right. If you are a healer blaming DD for dying "because they blink" then please don't play a healer job. Problem solved, all this annoying whining goes away. I would rather SE look into bigger and better things than listening to people who are too mentally challenged to use proper macros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henihhi View Post
    Cyx has it right. If you are a healer blaming DD for dying "because they blink" then please don't play a healer job. Problem solved, all this annoying whining goes away. I would rather SE look into bigger and better things than listening to people who are too mentally challenged to use proper macros.
    It's not just with heals. It's anything that requires targeting. And exepcting people to create a seperate macro for everythign they do just so you can avoid having your target suddenly canceled on the whim of someone else is too much of an inconvience, i'm sorry.

    If it was just with healing spells alone, then yes - it woudn't be a huge problem. But it isn't. This is a false debate, this whole healing thing. A non-issue for people to seize onto and call people names over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    It's not just with heals. It's anything that requires targeting. And exepcting people to create a seperate macro for everythign they do just so you can avoid having your target suddenly canceled on the whim of someone else is too much of an inconvience, i'm sorry.

    If it was just with healing spells alone, then yes - it woudn't be a huge problem. But it isn't. This is a false debate, this whole healing thing. A non-issue for people to seize onto and call people names over.
    you dont need to have macros for everything you do, just the important stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    you dont need to have macros for everything you do, just the important stuff.
    I don't know why people keep saying this. It's just not true.

    I have played with people who gear swap like it's a compulsion. I would have had to create a macro for just about every ability i use to have prevent my target from being canceled. It depends on the extent the people you are with use the technique, and I think a lot of the people pretending this isn't a big deal and just useless whining have been lucky enough not to party with people who use it like a compulsive habit.

    It's just irritating. I already have a zillion macros. I really don't have the room or the head to use a zillion more.

    I gear swap a ton myself, but only with gear that doesn't cause the blink effect. Why? Because i know how annoying it is I don't want to drive other players nuts. Be nice if everyone else would afford the same courtesy.

    I would only swap gear during a fight that causes the "blink" effect for rare actions you don't use very often - otherwise the annoyance you will cause others will far outweight the benefits gained IMHO.

    This is a real problem and Square should get around to doing something about it that doesn't involve having to make 50 extra macros so I can spend more time flipping through rows of macros than I do actually enjoying the game. Perhaps they should simply add this <stal> command or w/e into the coding of the game so that the command is automatically used with all targeted spells and ablities. I don't know enough about programming to know if that's a realistic solution or not, but it is one idea.

    And then there is the spam issue also, flooding my battle log with this annoying yellow message telling me something i already know. That needs to be fixed also, and is just as irritating as the "blink" crap. Gear-swapping during battle has just become too big a part of FF 11's accepted game play for it to be as clunky as it is today. It's time it got some refinements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    I don't know why people keep saying this. It's just not true.

    I have played with people who gear swap like it's a compulsion. I would have had to create a macro for just about every ability i use to have prevent my target from being canceled. It depends on the extent the people you are with use the technique, and I think a lot of the people pretending this isn't a big deal and just useless whining have been lucky enough not to party with people who use it like a compulsive habit.

    It's just irritating. I already have a zillion macros. I really don't have the room or the head to use a zillion more.

    I gear swap a ton myself, but only with gear that doesn't cause the blink effect. Why? Because i know how annoying it is I don't want to drive other players nuts. Be nice if everyone else would afford the same courtesy.

    I would only swap gear during a fight that causes the "blink" effect for rare actions you don't use very often - otherwise the annoyance you will cause others will far outweight the benefits gained IMHO.

    This is a real problem and Square should get around to doing something about it that doesn't involve having to make 50 extra macros so I can spend more time flipping through rows of macros than I do actually enjoying the game.

    And then there is the spam issue also, flooding my battle log with this annoying yellow message telling me something i already know. That needs to be fixed also, and is just as irritating as the "blink" crap. Gear-swapping during battle has just become too big a part of FF 11's accepted game play for it to be as clunky as it is today. It's time it got some refinements.
    as DRG... I gear swap for WS (twice actually) for healing breath, for jumps, and for when I go in and out of battle (I have some of that dusk crap) and none of the mages in my LS ever complain or have a problem healing me.

    as DNC it is even worse, I gear swap for everything I do. The only job that is one of my three mains that I dont geaerswap on is PUP, but that is only level 40 or so.

    it is all about macro slot management, and people using the right commands.
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    I honestly cannot see why people would assume I'm trolling, perhaps my lack of posting on the boards because I don't have a lot of free time to actually sit down and post daily.

    I do use my Murgleis over my Excalibur, I think that when I hit Aftermath Lv.3 its a stronger weapon then Excalibur, not to mention my Death Blossom is much stronger then my KoR will ever be whenever I use it, I'm strongly against gear swapping because I think its absolutely useless! I could carry more meds with me, more pop items, and hold more pop items if need when I do events, I've got 18/20 jobs to 90 with them all geared, and I've given up with gear swapping about 2 years ago because its just not worth the benefit and I don't notice a decrease in my characters performance.

    If I'm planning to play DD I grab all my haste gear, if I'm planning to Mage I grab all my Cure gear, If I'm going to be Nuking well thankfully I've got Laevateinn recently to 90 and it pulls ahead over those silly staves everyone is working their tail off attempting to build.

    I'm not a troll and I'm strongly against Gear Swapping, and I do understand the game mechanics but the marginal increase that swapping from one piece of gear to another during a weapon skill is so minimal in my eyes that its not worth the inventory -1 and I'd rather give it to someone else who thinks they would utilize it better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nidhogg View Post
    I honestly cannot see why people would assume I'm trolling, perhaps my lack of posting on the boards because I don't have a lot of free time to actually sit down and post daily.

    I do use my Murgleis over my Excalibur, I think that when I hit Aftermath Lv.3 its a stronger weapon then Excalibur, not to mention my Death Blossom is much stronger then my KoR will ever be whenever I use it, I'm strongly against gear swapping because I think its absolutely useless! I could carry more meds with me, more pop items, and hold more pop items if need when I do events, I've got 18/20 jobs to 90 with them all geared, and I've given up with gear swapping about 2 years ago because its just not worth the benefit and I don't notice a decrease in my characters performance.

    If I'm planning to play DD I grab all my haste gear, if I'm planning to Mage I grab all my Cure gear, If I'm going to be Nuking well thankfully I've got Laevateinn recently to 90 and it pulls ahead over those silly staves everyone is working their tail off attempting to build.

    I'm not a troll and I'm strongly against Gear Swapping, and I do understand the game mechanics but the marginal increase that swapping from one piece of gear to another during a weapon skill is so minimal in my eyes that its not worth the inventory -1 and I'd rather give it to someone else who thinks they would utilize it better.
    You have a different opinion than them Nidhogg. Therefore you are either an idiot or trolling. Haven't you learned this yet? (That was sarcasm in case you could not tell)

    That being said I do have to disagree with you though. I think swapping gear is worth it for the increase in performance, else believe you me, i woudn't be doing it, as it annoys the living _____ out of me. I think what it adds to your character is very significant.
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