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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    Empy-hate to say it but this one is on you. Baby can make that statement because she does run with a tight group (no, i'm not in it, I just see her around a bit). You do have to wait your turn, but you do get your stuff relatively quickly when your turn comes up. But you have to show up and do your job if you expect to get in such a group, it is a commitment to the rest of the group.
    That sounds more like a serious relationship or a full time job than casual to me. Do I have to buy them flowers and tell them they are pretty even when they have something stuck in their teeth and hold their hair when they are sick too?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    But you don't have to have r/m/e, unless you are bard or paladin. Have you been seeing all the whining threads? the reive weaps rival r/m/e for DPS and SE just cut the cost in half, you are only missing the weap skill from r/m/e and often it is your merited WS the group wants anyway.
    That's neat. I have yet to see a Linkshell or PUG looking for people with Rieve weapons. Can you point me to one on Cerberus?


    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    Get one. Skirmish only needs a party, and with the reive weaps they are quite doable (get the reive armor, too-all the DPS in the world means nothing when the time comes to survive a hit).
    I haven't seen a linkshell or pick up accepting players with these either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    That's neat. I have yet to see a Linkshell or PUG looking for people with Rieve weapons. Can you point me to one on Cerberus?
    I haven't seen a linkshell or pick up accepting players with these either.
    I guess that they're simply uninformed.

    Spharai 99 Stats: D+52, delay 86, Att +40.

    Ninza Stats that I saw on an average player: D+60, delay 51. Might have had some STR/DEX on it, but I'm not certain.

    Highest augment on BGwiki shows an extra 4 Dmg than that as well with a +1 stone, and with a +2 it's likely higher still.

    Stones are now saleable on the AH.


    So, just because you've never seen anyone shouting for them, and just because you're not aware of anyone accepting people with them, doesn't mean that if you pitched up and said, "Hey my weapon's base stats are better than rme, mind if I join even though it's not a delve weapon?", that they're tell you to get lost.

    Sure there's no hidden effect, or aftermath, but it's still not laughable by any means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    I guess that they're simply uninformed.

    Spharai 99 Stats: D+52, delay 86, Att +40.

    Ninza Stats that I saw on an average player: D+60, delay 51. Might have had some STR/DEX on it, but I'm not certain.

    Highest augment on BGwiki shows an extra 4 Dmg than that as well with a +1 stone, and with a +2 it's likely higher still.

    Stones are now saleable on the AH.


    So, just because you've never seen anyone shouting for them, and just because you're not aware of anyone accepting people with them, doesn't mean that if you pitched up and said, "Hey my weapon's base stats are better than rme, mind if I join even though it's not a delve weapon?", that they're tell you to get lost.

    Sure there's no hidden effect, or aftermath, but it's still not laughable by any means.
    Rigors are DMG+ 101, ACC +15 in their base form... Ninzas are literally half as good on their best day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Rigors are DMG+ 101, ACC +15 in their base form... Ninzas are literally half as good on their best day.
    and still require a delve boss kill not a wildskeepers kill to even aquire

    in all honesty skirm weapons are fantastic to fill the gap between wildskeepers and delve but i think SE jumped the gun by making skirmish kinda tough to acess from the get-go so players who could benifit from these were not able to.
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    Last edited by Umichi; 07-21-2013 at 09:56 AM.

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    They require an outside NM kill and Plasm. Not a boss.

    The boss H2H is: DMG:+146 Delay:+96 Accuracy+35 Attack+25 Guard skill +4 Physical damage taken -3%
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Rigors are DMG+ 101, ACC +15 in their base form... Ninzas are literally half as good on their best day.
    Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of the word literally?

    Best anyone has seen and recorded on Ninza is D64. That's almost 2/3rds as good as Rigor, and they have a lower delay too, making them about 2/3rds as good.

    Not "literally half".

    And it's besides the point. They fill the gap between Brawny and Rigor, just like they are supposed to. Heck they're about on par with Spharai and Vere 99, and people have no qualms with taking a rme99 mnk along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of the word literally?

    Best anyone has seen and recorded on Ninza is D64. That's almost 2/3rds as good as Rigor, and they have a lower delay too, making them about 2/3rds as good.

    Not "literally half".

    And it's besides the point. They fill the gap between Brawny and Rigor, just like they are supposed to. Heck they're about on par with Spharai and Vere 99, and people have no qualms with taking a rme99 mnk along.
    Yeah, I guess if you ignore the base accuracy and the guaranteed upgrades that can be put on rigor and assume the best stats ever recorded on ninzi added through luck of the draw, then sure. 2/3... if you say so. Make sure you make that same argument with the people leading link shells and PUGs. I'm sure it will go over well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Make sure you make that same argument with the people leading link shells
    I forgot that all LS require you to be as good as you're ever going to be before they let you join.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    I forgot that all LS require you to be as good as you're ever going to be before they let you join.
    It comes up in almost every thread. I know you read them and I know you know it's happening more often than not.
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