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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    Many of you complaining about getting into delve runs why don't you just set up your own delve runs?
    Why don't you own a gaming company?

    There are two reasons to start a group. You really want something or you like starting groups.

    There are a million reasons not to. here are a few. maybe they...:

    Don't speak a common language well
    Don't have time
    Don't like leading
    Think it's too much work
    Think it is not fun
    Don't like people
    Aren't skilled enough
    Prefer to follow
    Have RL things that stop them like (children, needy girlfriends, parents)
    Are terrible leaders
    Don't know a good strategy / set up
    Don't think they can do it
    It's not fun
    It's not worth the effort


    I'm sure you have a few reasons of your own. It doesn't really matter what the reason is. What matters is that people aren't doing it and content shouldn't be based on things that people won't do.
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    Last edited by FrankReynolds; 07-11-2013 at 10:20 AM.

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    Player Hawklaser's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Why don't you own a gaming company?

    There are two reasons to start a group. You really want something or you like starting groups.

    There are a million reasons not to. here are a few. maybe they...:

    Don't speak a common language well
    Don't have time
    Don't like leading
    Think it's too much work
    Think it is not fun
    Don't like people
    Aren't skilled enough
    Prefer to follow
    Have RL things that stop them like (children, needy girlfriends, parents)
    Are terrible leaders
    Don't know a good strategy / set up
    Don't think they can do it
    It's not fun
    It's not worth the effort


    I'm sure you have a few reasons of your own. It doesn't really matter what the reason is. What matters is that people aren't doing it and content shouldn't be based on things that people won't do.
    The biggest one for me not starting a group, is I like to have some first hand experience with an event before spending hours to organize a run for something only read about. As paper and practice don't always work out the same. Plus, having at least attempted an event, gives more insight into what is actually needed to complete it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawklaser View Post
    The biggest one for me not starting a group, is I like to have some first hand experience with an event before spending hours to organize a run for something only read about. As paper and practice don't always work out the same. Plus, having at least attempted an event, gives more insight into what is actually needed to complete it.
    there's also the minor fact that if you are trying to organize a PUG you will be in competition for the same group of players as the other 5 shouting that still haven't filled... after an hour.
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    Player Hawklaser's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    there's also the minor fact that if you are trying to organize a PUG you will be in competition for the same group of players as the other 5 shouting that still haven't filled... after an hour.
    Yep, that's why I also pay attention to how many are shouting for whatever, as does no good to try starting a group when multiple others are not getting off the ground unless crazy restrictions are in place for the other groups. Kinda like trying to form an XP party back in the day, paid to check and see what all was available before trying to piece one together and get key jobs before mass inviting DD's.
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    Last edited by Hawklaser; 07-11-2013 at 01:57 PM.

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    I have to agree with the OP, and for 1 other reason. Remember that guy who used to get all that love from having capped his smithing skill because he could make you some decent armor? well, he's standing over there with his thumb up his butt wondering why he botherred. Crafting was an income stream and if decent-not exceptional, decent-gear to get started was available your smithing friend might pull his thumb out of his butt and start making stuff again, humming happily over his decision to level it up in the first place. Hopefully he remembers to wash his hands...

    On that note, one of the Matsui posts not that long ago gave me hope that SE has realized this as well from his comment on his tiers of "purchased gear", but he may just have been talking about bayald stuff, I dunno

    now, as to the people leaving comments to the effect of "deal with it", you do realize that your "advice" is about as helpful as giving a diuretic to someone suffering from severe dehydration, don't you?
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    Last edited by Glamdring; 07-11-2013 at 09:55 AM.

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    Player Myo's Avatar
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    Sorry to dig up my own dead post, but just wanted to note that after playing for a week or 2 after the last update. The addition of Voay Sword (level 106) to the Auction House Greatsword list, even though it's 50+ DMG less then it's delve counterpart, is still a blessing to any player unable to afford the 20M (level 117) Nagan. If they could even make a version of weapons with this type of damage boost to every weapon category, and manage to keep it's price under 2M, it would be a step in the right direction.
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    Player Zumi's Avatar
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    If you don't like leaders requiring delve gear to do delve you can always make your own group and take whoever you want.
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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Let them eat cake...
    Way to miss the point.
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    Sounds like this would solve your problem..
    http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/JP_Button

    Can I have one on a subligar?
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    Player Kaiichi's Avatar
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    I agree with the OP in part. As I strongly agree that there is a lack of non Rare Ex gear as of late, even in the days of old, if you wanted to get the gear for your favored job, you usually had to level a job that you didn't care for as much if at all. and believe it or not, Delve is the new end game. And it may be your $12.95, but they don't give a **** about it. Maybe you should look into making a new linkshell and recruiting just for it.

    On a side not, I still can't get over seeing shouts for full alliances with the requirement of having R/M/E. It's just insane how many people have them now. I usually see it stuck on 17/18 looking for a PLD for hours. Maybe try leveling that and invest time into an Ochain. I'm sure it would pay off in the long run. I personally started to build an Ageis, I know It dose not compare in terms of block rate, but it's close and it will make me happy.
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