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    Player Mokeil's Avatar
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    Mokeil
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    SMN Lv 99
    Definitely a huge increase in evasion and defense. I was able to safely kill VT lizards in Morimar without having to resummon or use healing Wards. Still lacking the Delve SMN staff, so my output isn't as impressive as Dekusuta's, though...

    On a fun note, I was getting very regular 8.8k Predator Claws off in Abyssea on ole Megamaw Mikey (RR, GH, and Sanguine Scythe Atmas). On my last kill, the poor NM didn;t even live long enough for me to get a third BP off.
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    Player Clou777's Avatar
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    Cloudius
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    SMN Lv 99
    does the update for smn include all ammo items for the effect or its it only for these 2 new items? like would the esper stone increase the avatars stats to that of a lv96?
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    Player Dekusuta's Avatar
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    Dekusutaa
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    Bismarck
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    From the update notes

    A summoner’s avatar’s attributes will now increase in line with the item level of the item equipped in the ammo slot.
    * Equipment that increases the attributes of avatars has been added.
    * If the item equipped in the ammo slot is switched out when the avatar is active, the increased stats will change based on the new ammo.
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    Player Clou777's Avatar
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    yeah but that doesnt answer it, i dont notice a difference when i take off the ammo and when i wear it
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    Player Annalise's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clou777 View Post
    yeah but that doesnt answer it, i dont notice a difference when i take off the ammo and when i wear it
    Do a magical bloodpact with it on, then switch to Esper stone and do a magic bloodpact with it off. Based on what SE has said, you should get lower damage from the Esper Stone because of the decrease in avatar stats.
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    Player Babekeke's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clou777 View Post
    yeah but that doesnt answer it, i dont notice a difference when i take off the ammo and when i wear it
    might be that once you un-equip it, you have to re-summon with it equipped to get the benefits back again.
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    Player Mokeil's Avatar
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    I'm reasonably certain it's dynamic level checking - no need to re-summon. I was testing out my damage some on mandies right outside Adoulin's gates, and I noticed very clear differences in how fast my avatar was dying as I was taking the sash on and off.
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    Player Dekusuta's Avatar
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    Dekusutaa
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    Yep, when I was testing I had esper stone in my inventory so my macros swapped it in as I bp'ed and I realized why the damage was so bad.

    Esper stone is now out of the equip list.
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    Player Clou777's Avatar
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    Cloudius
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    ok tested with diabolos Nether Blast and here were the results:
    Nothing in ammo slot - constant 838 dmg
    Esper Stone - constant 843 dmg

    so esper stone DOES increasse avatars stats, but not by much
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