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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    You say that, but the second time I played FFIV, I leveled Ridia to 99 right after I got her. Before I even entered that town right there.
    The key is killing Cecil off after she's high enough to solo.
    Grind is grind, it's in everything that has XP or random drops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    You say that, but the second time I played FFIV, I leveled Ridia to 99 right after I got her. Before I even entered that town right there.
    The key is killing Cecil off after she's high enough to solo.
    Grind is grind, it's in everything that has XP or random drops.
    Well you are talking about 14. Which from what I hear is made to be the new generation style RPG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Well you are talking about 14. Which from what I hear is made to be the new generation style RPG.
    He's talking about Final Fantasy IV, guy, not XIV. You should know where Rydia is from!!!
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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    4, no X.

    Or did we both missread something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    4, no X.

    Or did we both missread something?
    I misread and thought Ridia was the name of a server in 14.

    Rydia however yes I remember in IV.

    I don't know much about 14 but I had a double disappointment over it. I bought collectors edition... Got mugged on my home and went back to buy another one. Spent $200. Then found the game too disappointing. But I hear great reviews about 14 now and that they did an amazing job.
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    Oh my bad lol. Mis read it while proof reading. Btw I'm writing all of this on a cellphone wah wah...
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    “After switching over to the Famicom, there was a time when I wasn't happy with anything I was creating. I thought of retiring from the game industry and I created Final Fantasy as my final project. That's why the title includes the word 'final' but for me, the title 'Final Fantasy' reflects my emotional state at the time and the feeling that time had stopped. They say that technologically, it's good to keep going, and each time, we give it our all and expend our skills and energy until we can go no further; this is what I consider to be the "final fantasy".”
    —Hironobu Sakaguchi

    http://m.ign.com/articles/2009/06/18...-final-fantasy
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    Last edited by Daemon; 07-09-2013 at 01:03 PM.

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    #1. Opinion: Enix isn't Soft enough.
    #2. Solution: Time travel
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    Reposted my Guide under a new title much better than the last one.
    Solution: read it here http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...egy-Guide-FFXI
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    I would say right now FFXI's biggest issue is that its caught between 2 systems. THe developers have tried to take a fast growth system (from new MMO's) and apply it to FFXI but without giving the reluctance to give up the slow progression style of the game. This does not work. You either have fast growth easy outdated equipment and instant gratification rewards or slow growth long term rewards.
    Right now as it stands it takes 3 airlixer +2's a few plasm accessories and a delve boss weapon to be considered current. Lets take MNK as an example. To max it out you need 4 pieces of Plasm Armor maxed oatixer earrings neck tojil waist to be considered good. Thats about 1.75M plasm, at which you obtain (no offence to pugs but...) about 3.5k average per run and you get about 1 run done an hour (again this is basing it to the average person not groups that go in with a full LS geared to do an NM run + tojil). Thats 500 runs or 500hrs of plasm farming lets say the updates are 6 weeks apart before they outdate most of your gear that means to even complete the previous "good gear) you need to farm plasm 12hrs a day 7 days a week to get to the current gear cap the day before it becomes irrelevant.
    Now with the new updates introduction, a chunk of your top gear has already been replaced before 99% of the server even obtained it (somehow I remember this happening before oh yeah skirmish weapons lol good for 3 weeks then useless) requires you to spend a week farming bayld to fight a monster 1 time in hopes you get your gear and if not you may as well give up because if it hasnt dropped after fighting each mob 2x chances are its already outdated before you will ever see it.
    There is little reason to care about or get excited over new content because you already know by the time you can get the gear its already worthless so there is no reason to grind for it, and without a reason to grind for gear there is really no reason to play an MMO.

    For me personally they have taken everything I enjoyed about this game and killed it, They took my exp parties away that I would make good friends in and imo helped build a stable community that is the basis for why people play MMO's, they made 75% of all jobs useless (including the 4 jobs I enjoy playing), they took away any reason behind long term goals (my 2 mythics and 5 relics are worthless have the gil to do more but why bother) and with them alienating the not so hard core players a majority of my friends have quit which is leading me to log in less and less and eventually quit myself

    TL;DR right now FF uses long term progression for fast outdated gear so no point in trying because its useless before you get it which makes MMO's pointless.
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