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    Player Zumi's Avatar
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    The main reason FFXI has declined is the dual box attitude. What ever happened to doing stuff with other people in a group?

    For a non dual boxer like me I can't get much accomplished because people tell me just dual box it. Like the new 300 rme drops. Dual boxers are all over raptor, chapuli, mata, taxet. Nobody will want to team up with you because people will say just dual box it.

    Why because it is faster to get it done solo dualboxing because you don't have to share drops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    The main reason FFXI has declined is the dual box attitude. What ever happened to doing stuff with other people in a group?
    I have an entire LS filled with people, some who dualbox, some who do not, none of which are so selfish as to tell you to dualbox your own things because they will not help you. I am sure if you wanted to join not a person would complain unless you have done something to one of the other members of PuntDeTaru, which I doubt you have. If you want help with something I am sure anyone free would be up to helping you if they can, offering something like the Airlixirs from a NM or something would also be a great way to get help, I know many people in here are still gearing their jobs because they never got to attend Tojil runs, or at least winning ones. People still do things in groups all over, most of them to not ask others to join because there is no need to anymore, and you can not find help where you do not ask for it, I have not seen you shout in Jeuno for a WHM to heal your MNK while you fight Mata, nor any other NM, while offering the Airlixirs and other drops as the reward, would it likely pick up? No, but its an attempt, and since a WHM hardly has much to do during Mata so long as you are geared with PDT and such, it should not be much an issue if their rewards are somewhat sub par, all they spend is time performing slight cures on you.

    For a non dual boxer like me I can't get much accomplished because people tell me just dual box it. Like the new 300 rme drops. Dual boxers are all over raptor, chapuli, mata, taxet. Nobody will want to team up with you because people will say just dual box it.
    Tell you what, even if you don't join the LS or don't want to, I will help you with your weapons whenever you want to hit me up if I am free. I will come RDM and either heal with /SCH or DD with /NIN depending on what is needed, insult my RDM in any way and I will leave, I come to help you because you ask, not to be told I am bad for meleeing, nor to be criticized on my ability to play my job unless it is justly deserved, not that I necessarily think you will, but I am saying it as a warning because I have gotten tired of it, and will not tolerate it. I will let you buy pops if you want, I wont, I am short on money as it is, I will however have no issues helping you farm pops for NMs if you want. I ask that you be understanding I would be helping you in my free time, and as such may need to leave at times or may not be available at times which are best for you, though I highly doubt I will ever have to leave during a fight unless it is extremely urgent.



    I agree that dualboxing itself has had a negative impact on the game in many ways, but it was partially brought on by the very selfishness it has helped to cause. I myself have access to my GF and my best friend's characters so I can dualbox myself. I know the negative effects it has had and can have, but at the same time, I understand why people do it, and I cant blame them. Dualboxing is insanely helpful for someone who can not get help with things, for instance, I can not get help with my last 50ish Azdaja horns for my friend's Ochain, we need a healer to be able to do it quickly and effectively, and I am far to lazy to change jobs every 2 KIs, so we just don't do it, if I felt more comfortable doing it I could dualbox my GF's character on her WHM and do just fine, which is part of why I understand it.
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    IMO there's nothing wrong with people duo and triple boxing, (unless they bot while they do it). if someone is able to actually pull it off and hit their ws while they heal a party or whatever well good for them. Why would anyone think dual boxing was bad, especially now when the population has declined so far that getting groups for anything is near impossible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by predatory View Post
    IMO there's nothing wrong with people duo and triple boxing, (unless they bot while they do it). if someone is able to actually pull it off and hit their ws while they heal a party or whatever well good for them. Why would anyone think dual boxing was bad, especially now when the population has declined so far that getting groups for anything is near impossible?
    Well part of the issue to it is the fact that so many people go off and do things alone without a care in the world. I can go dualbox seals in Abyssea without a care for if my LS needs the seals I do not, why would I bother asking? Well, I personally would, but many would not, if anything they would fear the case they may get all of the seals they need and end up getting stuck there helping the others, or the may feel like the other person will slow them down in some form. It also goes to things like Mata, which are easily able to be duoed, when someone can dualbox it, it creates more congestion because a single person is doing it rather than two, which means that there is no chance of the WHM having to leave, or something similar, which would remove the party from the spot for some time.

    There are both good and bad things to each side of it.
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