Reasons Why FFXI is Declining

[Daemon]

No, the dev team is off in the other room having a snack. They cannot create enough content to sustain a vertical progression model even for casuals, let alone hardcores. They abandoned a much more sustainable model in favor of this treadmill of fail. I have not played seriously in a month and bet I can max out my jobs again in two nights after work.

Adoulin is bad design blended with terrible ideas and dusted with a pinch of "who really cares what the players want?"

In my opinion people want the world to be more than what it already is. We are playing a game that is 11 years old. Most people have already past almost everything in it.

Playerbase is at a point where everyone has enough power to speed past new content faster than it can be put out.

You do things for people and when they lose interest in what you do for them no matter how hard you try the interest cannot be given back without some miracle and that's what I see people are expecting.

A miracle.

But at this point the ladder can only go so high. Is it worth it?

[nyheen]

Valkurm Dunes
Qufim Island
Yuhtunga
Yhoat
Garlaige Citadel
Wajaom Woodlands
Bhaflau Thickets
Caedarva Mire
Arrapago Reef

anyone miss these old party spots?

miss them lot. but people dont even them now n days and the list is even bigger then that with the old pt spots. this was one of the main things i liked that got took away.>< just to join level sync xp pts and to actually do your job in a 6 man pt.

in todays pts no one doing any kinda team work, it just join gusgen mines 18 people, spam EP,DC with little to no help, it mostly just soloing while being in a pt.
same thing in abyssea lvl90+ DDs, etc mostly just soloing everything or even 1 shoting stuff now while people just following them.>.>

[FrankReynolds]

miss them lot. but people dont even them now n days and the list is even bigger then that with the old pt spots. this was one of the main things i liked that got took away.>< just to join level sync xp pts and to actually do your job in a 6 man pt.

in todays pts no one doing any kinda team work, it just join gusgen mines 18 people, spam EP,DC with little to no help, it mostly just soloing while being in a pt.
same thing in abyssea lvl90+ DDs, etc mostly just soloing everything or even 1 shoting stuff now while people just following them.>.>

I had to pretty much solo or whack at walls to get THF,BLM,SMN and DNC to 75 because they were not popular party jobs and it was paaaiiinnnfullly slow. I miss the party spots, but I don't miss anything that went with them.

[Spectreman]

Shouting in jeuno for days for a single pt invite?

Camping HNMs for so many hours to be beaten by the LS with the best bot claim?

Endless frustrating Dynamis runs where you would return empty handed 90% of time because drops for certain jobs were abyssmal?

Events like Salvage where only a few would even see what was in there because it was "too hardcore" for scrubs to participate?

Years of sidegrades that more and more required us to blink each second exchanging gear, carrying almost full inventory with swaps for 2-3% of dmg improvement?



Yea right, you guys can all go to FF14. The game changed for the better. If you are rushing yourself through endgame content and find yourself bored after a month then go play another game called real life.

All hardcore freaks can't understand that there is life outside this game. Go experience that and enjoy FFXI in smaller doses. You will be amazed how awesome this game is instead of cursing how everything is easy when you got the strongest gear of the game in a month.


Though i have to agree that things like exp parties in valkrum/qufim/kazham/citadel/cn/altepa was fun and still would be today if they improved GoV exp rewards up to abyssea level.

[Umichi]

Shouting in jeuno for days for a single pt invite?

Camping HNMs for so many hours to be beaten by the LS with the best bot claim?

Endless frustrating Dynamis runs where you would return empty handed 90% of time because drops for certain jobs were abyssmal?

Events like Salvage where only a few would even see what was in there because it was "too hardcore" for scrubs to participate?

Years of sidegrades that more and more required us to blink each second exchanging gear, carrying almost full inventory with swaps for 2-3% of dmg improvement?



Yea right, you guys can all go to FF14. The game changed for the better. If you are rushing yourself through endgame content and find yourself bored after a month then go play another game called real life.

All hardcore freaks can't understand that there is life outside this game. Go experience that and enjoy FFXI in smaller doses. You will be amazed how awesome this game is instead of cursing how everything is easy when you got the strongest gear of the game in a month.


Though i have to agree that things like exp parties in valkrum/qufim/kazham/citadel/cn/altepa was fun and still would be today if they improved GoV exp rewards up to abyssea level.

I believe they were referring to how much more competant the playerbase was back in the day vs now

[Afania]

Yea right, you guys can all go to FF14. The game changed for the better. If you are rushing yourself through endgame content and find yourself bored after a month then go play another game called real life.

All hardcore freaks can't understand that there is life outside this game. Go experience that and enjoy FFXI in smaller doses. You will be amazed how awesome this game is instead of cursing how everything is easy when you got the strongest gear of the game in a month.

That's not even half the issue this game is facing. This game requires connection/"buy-in" to keep players around, playing on and off simply doesn't work, and it's irrelevant to whether you have a life or not. It's more of a social game than MMORPG. Once your close friend got bored and quit, you'd got bored and quit too due to lack of ppl to play with, making it harder to do everything else. "Have something to do" is more than trying to please the hardcore, but it's also a good incentive to keep players/friends/linkshell together.

And stop playing real life card. Everyone has a life, including myself. But I only have one life, and I'd like to experience something different/more exciting than real life. My life is nothing more than wake up work wake up work, I like my "second life" after I got home, that give me a chance to meet players I never have chance to meet irl, or experience a world that I never get a chance to irl. It's my money and my time, I don't need anyone giving me lecture "go experience real life" when I have enough of it.

You don't even need to be close to hardcore to finish current game content 100 times. I've been selling stacks and stacks of airlixir +1s since it cost 1.2M a stack back in July. All the plasm add up together I can have R15 for every slot if I want to, plus capped delve boss gears. Do you think I play 8hrs a day? For past 1 month I play 5hr a week avg, and I work 9~12hr a day, sometimes even Weekend. I highly doubt you have more "real life" than me. I'm no where close to hardcore, not even close to avg player playtime, and I already finish delve content for month.

I don't mind 2%~3% of improvement, I don't mind doing an event and get nothing 9 out of 10 runs as long as I'm playing with friends and after 9 runs I got something cool. But I'm not very happy to log on to XI and see my LS all turn into ghost town and friendlist empty, due to everyone quitting after they're done with delve.

[Daemon]

Shouting in jeuno for days for a single pt invite?

Camping HNMs for so many hours to be beaten by the LS with the best bot claim?

Endless frustrating Dynamis runs where you would return empty handed 90% of time because drops for certain jobs were abyssmal?

Events like Salvage where only a few would even see what was in there because it was "too hardcore" for scrubs to participate?

Years of sidegrades that more and more required us to blink each second exchanging gear, carrying almost full inventory with swaps for 2-3% of dmg improvement?



Yea right, you guys can all go to FF14. The game changed for the better. If you are rushing yourself through endgame content and find yourself bored after a month then go play another game called real life.

All hardcore freaks can't understand that there is life outside this game. Go experience that and enjoy FFXI in smaller doses. You will be amazed how awesome this game is instead of cursing how everything is easy when you got the strongest gear of the game in a month.


Though i have to agree that things like exp parties in valkrum/qufim/kazham/citadel/cn/altepa was fun and still would be today if they improved GoV exp rewards up to abyssea level.

Pretty much everything I said in all of my replies sum up to this in 1 post lol.

[scaevola]

Worth noting that Monstrosity is basically old-school partying if you took a 6-man party and rolled it into one character.

(it's seriously a blast and I look forward to wiping the floor with the lot of you in November~)

[nyheen]

There have been some improvements, notably level synch which allowed you keep xping when your tank dc'd or whatever. And able to lowman / solo your relic armors / weapons in Dyna. Relic+2 was also cool. Aby was fun and had cool mobs, but the allowing people to xp in groups with a 69-lvl gap between players was a disaster, and inevitably led to what we have now ; WAR99s would have never used a weapon more than a few times in the lvl 1-30 range, and used forbidden keys instead for 30-99. Or a blm killing 20 dolls at a time while everyone else just jogs to the Dom ops guy and back again for hours.
Its true there have been improvements and some disastrous errors / failures in the last 4 years. The importance of forums is you can discuss which of the developer decisions were good and which were terrible.
Nowadays you don't need to be polite in xp parties, or make new friends in xp parties, those things were what made FFxi a success to begin with, you had to play your job well and be a nice person in parties or you wouldn't get invited again. Nowadays you can log in and lvl 30-99 without saying a single word to anyone, and the only person who talks to you in 69 levels is a randomly-generated RMT /tell every so often. I made friends in FFxi xp parties in 2004, we became friends in real life and are still best friends. We connected because we were spending hours xping or meriting, really slowly, and playing at our best game-skills, noting that the other person was doing really good at their job, we admired them and became friends. That doesnt exist anymore, you can go Aby dolls and go afk or key or just play your job terribly, makes no difference, nobody is going to notice you or connect with you anyway. Remember how when you got a pt invite in the old game, it was your chance to shine, for a few hours you could play your job at your highest ability, make new friends, and you would get invited again because you were proficient and friendly. That stuff is just history now.

this is what most people seems to forget about. now it just a lost thing in the past but iam still happy i got the chance to do all of them things