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    Player Fermion's Avatar
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    I'm kind of withholding judgement on the magic update. It's one of those things I'm just going to have to "test drive". It does seem to have a too good to be true feeling about it. But idk, the damage may have to be pumped up a bit, because MP will still go fast, especially considering nukers will still not be competitive with Heavy DDs, even post update, with every refresh possible.

    Maybe they'll listen now. They are kind of desperate and I don't see where it hurts anything.

    R/E/M is the topic that just won't die. People just can't let go of their work they put in, so may as well throw them a bone. They should not blow delve weapons out of the water, but they should win by a few % points (so we don't go back to R/E/M only). Boss weapons will still be the best.

    Well, the good part about the R/E/M fix, is that it won't take much to get it implemented. I'm sure the hold up is them trying to decide the correct damage values and stats. The implementation will be quick after that. So, maybe instead of everyone being so critical, perhaps a thread or two discussing the hypothetical damage values of R/E/Ms would help speed things up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fermion View Post
    I'm kind of withholding judgement on the magic update. It's one of those things I'm just going to have to "test drive". It does seem to have a too good to be true feeling about it. But idk, the damage may have to be pumped up a bit, because MP will still go fast, especially considering nukers will still not be competitive with Heavy DDs, even post update, with every refresh possible.

    Maybe they'll listen now. They are kind of desperate and I don't see where it hurts anything.

    R/E/M is the topic that just won't die. People just can't let go of their work they put in, so may as well throw them a bone. They should not blow delve weapons out of the water, but they should win by a few % points (so we don't go back to R/E/M only). Boss weapons will still be the best.

    Well, the good part about the R/E/M fix, is that it won't take much to get it implemented. I'm sure the hold up is them trying to decide the correct damage values and stats. The implementation will be quick after that. So, maybe instead of everyone being so critical, perhaps a thread or two discussing the hypothetical damage values of R/E/Ms would help speed things up.
    Yeah I totally agree though mages will still be like DD Airheads who don't care about anything else other than dealing the highest damage possible because they are so addicted to power and want to show off their awesome damage. But sadly mages will want the same but have downtime recovering MP.
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    Player Vold's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fermion View Post
    They should not blow delve weapons out of the water, but they should win by a few % points (so we don't go back to R/E/M only).
    The only reason we were ever "RME only" is because of SE's content design, and even then if the vast majority of players weren't scared to death of forming groups for stuff because they might come across that person, there never would have been a 'RME only' era. Those shouters would have been mocked like the old days when someone would put '2 BRD only' or '1 BRD 1 COR only' etc variants in their search message.

    Also, I'm not sure some people fully understand the concept of RMEs. It's okay to replace a weapon worth hundreds of millions of gil as long as it's replacement is worth hundreds of millions. Delve weapons do not meet the standards of RMEs. They don't have an exclusive WS nor an aftermath. At best you can spend alot of gil for augments but that is no where in the same league as RMEs. It just means you have nothing better to spend your money on than augments on weapons that will almost certainly be followed up on by the newest ultimate weapon set. We'll call this set of weapons "Ancient Weapons."

    So in 3 months to 2 years a new set of weapons will appear on the scene called ancient weapons. They'll have new bestest WSs ever except mage stuff. It'll have aftermaths. Roses will fall from the heavens. These will be the weapons SE has warned us will come eventually that will put RMEs in their graves. They will come because people demand ultimate weapons to work towards, especially with how basic and fugly delve weapons are. They might even require RMEs to trade in for the quest so RMEs don't become a complete waste and won't end in a mass exodus of players. This is Final Fantasy. Yes, such weapons are coming and will continue to come every 3-5 years or so as they have been thus far. It's just this time around, the new set of weapons will probably mark the end of RMEs as SE doesn't want to go backwards anymore. That's okay as long as they are required to obtain ancient weapons.
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