yeah can get bad on some stuff on our server, delves shouts there is a few pugs, but mostly only want delve dd, never any r/e/m dd, salvage dont think much do on our server now, i want burtgang but since i play 2 accounts and cant enter with 2 never even bothered, woe very very rare, even vw only shouts are for mainly imp nm for ormolu but rarely for qulin or other 2 for pouches so 90 emps will never get theres done only aout 200 in bazaar on our whole server. think there needs to be a good rethink for SE. think they messed up big time as loads of players probably left by now.