My Girlfriend showed me this thread, and shes talking about making a LS to help people, new and older players will be welcomed, it is sad to see this kind of behavior by "Leaders" (leaders being used losely), this morning I saw a guy doing /yells for a Delv while I was in Jeuno, his yells were indicating his alliance was going from 17/18 down to 14/18, then one guy asked why it was fluctuating between 14/18 and 17/18, response "They didn't have the right type of gear/job" the guy wanted the names of people he kept booting then ended up saying "All those (Don't remember name) booted send me a /tell" about 2 1/2 - 3 hours later he said "were done with what we needed and your still looking?" I laughed.