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    Please, stop making new content!

    I know this sounds like a weird request, but really, stop please.

    Adding more and more content to the game would be great if the game were ok how it is now, because your just adding things to make it better, building on it. The bad thing is, that is not how things are right now, you need to address the problems the game has right now, new content be damned. Besides that, fulfill old promises, I understand the idea of getting inspiration to do something new and make new content, really, I do. The problem is that if you keep just adding new content and never going back to fix what has been left undone or you do not do as you say its going to end badly. Right now many people are leaving the game for various reasons, many of which you should be immediately concerned about rather than putting it off.

    Look at what you are doing right now, your working on Monstrosity, Skirmish, Delve, Reives, Mog Gardens, and many other things, all of which you said are coming in the next two months. But what is missing? Inventory, RME99s, Spells, Traits, and Abilities for various jobs, fixes to jobs which are broken or not used like SMN or RDM, or even the AF for the new jobs, the ones which right now are very unused, GEO having limited use in new content and nothing more. Last but not least there is Cait Sith, which has gotten so bad I now am calling Cait Sigh because its what I do every time I am reminded of it.

    Why are you so hell-bent on making something new when the foundation you are building on is so weak and crumbling as we speak? You need to fix up the place, reassert a sense of balance, give people what they want so they will be happy, not rip the game apart and start over. We have been here for years, you have changed the FFXI we knew and loved, you are making it into something different, we never asked for this, we asked for changes to the game, but never anything close to this. By what you are doing in these changes you are making us all feel as though this is not even FFXI anymore, its an entirely different game. Please do not forget, FFXIV is on the way, you are working on another game, not that, we want FFXI to stay FFXI, new things added, some things fixed, but we want FFXI.

    Right now we have a lot of problems with the game. Adding something new sounds great, but what are you really doing? You are creating more content which will be stun zerged. You are creating more items which we already cant fit into our inventories. You are creating more content where people will be excluded because of their job preference, or lack of special, new pieces of gear, which are so far above the rest. You are creating a tree that no one is following, an outline for levels which no one cares about, a plan to have us do every bit of content climbing a latter, but Delve has shown us just how badly that fails here. I understand what you are trying to do, but what you are doing is not the same. If you continue to create content like this you will end up finding it was all for naught because by the time you are finished there will not be enough people left to enjoy it anyways.

    This game has a great deal of things to do, its a decade old, its hard to make everything work, but we do not need everything to work. We need some specific problems fixed, things of which have been promised for a long time in some cases. Without these things, the game is falling, and unless something is done, it will continue to do so I'm afraid. Even if it was not you exactly, we were told certain things were on the way, Cait Sigh, Inventory, new SPs, and so on, rather than making something new, would it not be better to focus on giving us what was already announced before? I know you have announced these things too, but by waiting your just putting it off once again, the longer you wait the more it seems it will never even come in the first place.

    So I ask of you, please, stop adding brand new content, stop trying to cram in more things. Worry about the issues we already have with the game, fix the foundation, fix up the first part of what was built, and put in what was already planed, so when you do build upon it you are building something great! If you continue doing what you are now, I fear you will only end up building something which will fall shortly after, this game does not deserve that fate, it is not the way it should end.





    If possible someone please repost this on the other Forums to see how many agree or disagree. Also if you agree please do not forget to click like. I hope by doing so we might influence a change in their actions. As this game is going now I fear the end of FFXI is coming soon due to recent changes in development and the fact so many are leaving or have already left. Thank you.
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    There's just too much gear and instead of giving us more space or fixing moogle slip storage... They are going to add yet more gear looking at the outline for the summer... Sigh.
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    Wait, wait, wait. Cait Sith being added to the game would not be considered new content? *mindblown*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yinnyth View Post
    Wait, wait, wait. Cait Sith being added to the game would not be considered new content? *mindblown*
    To me, no, it was announced years ago, and has been highly demanded since, they have put off finishing and releasing it for over 2 years, almost 3 now. When I say new I mean something that is related to Adoulin basically, as it is where everything new takes place. Besides that, when I say new I also mean something which has not been done yet, or is fairly recent. For instance, they released these announcements only a few days ago, Cait Sigh was years ago, why not do what you said you would first, then work on this? Also, new things must be created for this, such as new enemies, animations, and so on, where as for Cait Sigh, it is a prominent character of WotG and even makes an appearance in VW, many animations exist for it, and it's model exists. They have a lot of animations to use for CSs involving it, many details already known, and a lot of work done on the character. So its new in the fact it was not yet released, yet much work has been done on it without even thinking about it as an Avatar. To me, new, would be starting from very little or from scratch, Cait Sigh, is not one of those things.

    If they have everything they announced already done, or have most of it done, I find it hard to believe they would be taking more than a month to get us half the stuff, as such, I believe there is a lot of work to be done. If so, I think its better to put that on hold and fulfill other things first, then do it, clear the slate of things you need to work on, then move forward. It would put us all at ease when it comes to content that was announced but never seen, and it would make their job easier because they would no longer have to worry about old content they need to get around to eventually.
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    Oh, I see. But wouldn't AF for new jobs count as new content? I mean, it's going to have quests, and it's going to be in Adoulin.

    Also I think it would be a mistake to try putting everything on hold until there's perfect job balance... there will never be perfect job balance. It's something which needs to be addressed constantly and little by little.

    Edit: also, there are a few cases where they address job balance through the addition of new content. For example, alternator. They also seem to be adding similar things for smn and bst next update.
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    It just seems really odd to me that after effectively blowing up all their old content--a stunningly, insanely bad decision--that someone should advocate making even less to replace it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yinnyth View Post
    Oh, I see. But wouldn't AF for new jobs count as new content? I mean, it's going to have quests, and it's going to be in Adoulin.
    Yes, but that is also a fix for two jobs. New content or not that is actually essential to balancing these two jobs in a way that will make them more useful, and get them caught up with other jobs. As of right now they have no way to specifically enhance their own abilities, where as every other job has a way to enhance, say, Warcry, by wearing a specific piece of gear. I put that in a different category than something like more Delve, Reives, Areas, Skirmish, and the like, because it is not simply a new event, but rather, a vital part to helping a job be useful in events.

    Also I think it would be a mistake to try putting everything on hold until there's perfect job balance... there will never be perfect job balance. It's something which needs to be addressed constantly and little by little.
    I never asked for perfection, nor did I say it was job balance specifically I am talking about. People were outraged by the new weapons, they themselves make all older content much easier than ever before, these things together should seem to suggest they are a bad idea. These are unbalanced, completely, and need to be rebalanced for the game. Jobs need balance as well, yes, but as you said, balance will never be perfect, thing is, it can get much better than it is now if they put in some of the new spells or JAs they have talked about or have been suggested.

    If they continue moving forward they may never look back, right now they seem to be doing very little to keep up with past announcements, only focusing on what they have come up with recently. This needs to stop, they are only building on a game right now which is driving people away, and they are seemingly ignoring the issues people have in favor of moving on their own way, its the exact kind of behavior this community has hated for a long time, only now, its got to the point people are leaving in droves.

    Edit: also, there are a few cases where they address job balance through the addition of new content. For example, alternator. They also seem to be adding similar things for smn and bst next update.
    There is no reason a fix for an entire job should be implemented through a single piece of gear gotten from an event. That is not a real fix, its a piece of gear. I have no doubt they do not really intend it to be a fix anyways, it just inadvertently became one. The Alternator is a level 115ish level piece of gear I believe, if so, then going by all of the weapons released as well, I would have to assume this was meant as a fix to replace the fact the Automaton will not get higher stats naturally as the players real level does not increase. It is the same way with BST, a BST's pet normally scales with the players level, but what happens when the player is no longer leveling normally, instead, leveling by gear? You add gear to make the pets level raise as well, I think that is what we are seeing here, not a job fix via gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hashmalum View Post
    It just seems really odd to me that after effectively blowing up all their old content--a stunningly, insanely bad decision--that someone should advocate making even less to replace it.
    Because they should not be replacing it to begin with, they should be rebalancing their current content they just recently made so its all balanced. By doing nothing but continuing to make new things they are ignoring the issues we have, ignoring past announcements, and ignoring our feedback on the issue. No matter what they add right now if it does not create real balance between the content to the point of making more things worth while, and it does not make more people come back, they are doing more harm than good by making new things. Basically I ask that they reverse that decision that blew up all the old content by balancing new things while going back and fixing what other issues plague this game so that its actually worth moving forward in the first place. Like I said, at the rate they are going they will create a bunch of cool new things but half the players will be gone, so really, who will be left to enjoy it?.
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    Let me try to explain a little better...

    Imagine this game as a building. Tanaka was here and built the first 8 floors, then Yoshi came in and built 1~2 floors, then Tanaka came back and built 1 more, and now Matsui came in to continue the work on it. While building the first 8 floors it went well, sometimes it had some weird or bad design ideas in the floors and how they were built, but overall it was a sound structure. Yoshi came in and built two amazing floors, not everyone liked it of course, always some problems, to large of entrances being one of the largest, but overall it was great. Then Takana came back, his weird design with him, and people were upset, he did not follow the example of the last 2 floors, the ones where almost everyone was happy with them, on top of that, some of his work was left unfinished when he left the project. Now Matsui stepped in, and he made a floor that was so big it creates structural problems, sure, the floor looks good in design, but its to big, the building is on the verge of collapse now because this floor was done in such a way that the building was never meant for. The people who are in the building or will be in the building were never expecting it and do not want it, yet at the same time, its there. Now the building is going to collapse possibly but instead of going back and working on finishing the last floor started by Tanaka and trying to get things tied up there he left it unfinished, and instead of going back to fix the mistakes made with the last floor, the one threatening the entire building itself, he is trying to build on top of it!

    This is how I see FFXI. The game worked for many years, it was never perfect, but it was a good game to a lot of people in a lot of ways. Abyssea came, it had flaws, to some people the biggest of them was always the early entrance to low levels, to others it was the fact it hurt large linkshells a ton with lowmaning things. All in all, it was thought of as one of the best parts of FFXI to many people, and is still thought highly of by many. When Tanaka came back he took all of the worst parts of that, Procing for drops for instance, and put them in VW, as well as many other ideas which were bad like the low drop rates. These hurt the game a bit, but overall it was not to bad in the end. As things went on, he left, with some unfulfilled promises in there, and now we have Matsui in charge. He seems like he wants to get things done, and I like a lot of his ideas and such which have come forth, I still think Delve is one of the best events the game has ever had in terms of design, the problem is, what came with it was also bad. He brought in some of the most unbalanced things ever, told the players he was changing the entire design of the game so far as progression goes, and no longer supporting RMEs as the best weapons, all together, this is causing many people to leave. Unless something is done to go back and finish what was announced before, fixes the problems he created, and goes back to the old design ideas, I think the game will die out. The player base right now is not one that can or should be replaced, this game is old, it looks old, it plays old, to remove this player base and go for a new one not only upsets and alienates the current players, but it also kills the game because the idea of getting a new player base seems unrealistic at best. They need to finish what was started, fix was they broke, and return to what they know works, what kept players playing for years.

    I am not sure who said it exactly, but I remember reading yesterday or day before on here someone said, and I paraphrase... Its not like we have been playing this game for years just waiting for it to adapt WoW like progression or something. Its true, we are here for FFXI, and this game, is changing, it is becoming something different, something many of us don't like, and right now were showing that by leaving. If so many keep leaving, soon, nothing will be left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    There's just too much gear and instead of giving us more space or fixing moogle slip storage... They are going to add yet more gear looking at the outline for the summer... Sigh.
    They're giving demonstrably better gear from here on out instead sidegrade swap pieces. No longer requiring players to lug around 5+ complete sets of gear simultaneously is how you solve the inventory problem with extreme prejudice.
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