Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
Ok here is a challenge for both Karah and Tomoa. I know you believe highly that Hvelgamir is worthless. But Seriously play some WoE and use it, Try it out because im sure you will be placed in situations where you run out of Temp items and MP. Even Convert will be downtime.

Carry a stack of Icarus Wings. I know there is 120 time limit but ignore that limitation for a second and just try it then maybe you will see why i fought so hard as to why this is not worthless.
I think near the start of it, or at least parts I read, they seemed to say that if you used Wings it was good to have as a swap in tool, but just to idle in its never a good or viable option, especially given the extra time it takes to earn one vs earning an Owleyes. The staff has its uses, that's for sure, the only problem is how restricted they are, any content like Delve its not a good idea, but in VW or WoE, its by no means a bad option.