Invitation to Plasm Farming

[Demon6324236]

You say there wasn't enough feedback, there was, just not the positive type you so desired, had you simply accepted that others had given info which was more accurate or in the case of Emp Staff v Owleyes you could have simply continued onward and had people getting help from this. Instead you are acting like a little kid who thought since a couple people made fun of your sand castle you would just smash it with your shovel and complain people made you do it because they made fun of you. You said your goal here was to help people, well, some of the things you said were helping people, but then you deleted everything, now all you did was waste your time when you put all of the work into this that you did, does it not seem that you are acting stupid by doing such a thing?

[Daemon]

You say there wasn't enough feedback, there was, just not the positive type you so desired, had you simply accepted that others had given info which was more accurate or in the case of Emp Staff v Owleyes you could have simply continued onward and had people getting help from this. Instead you are acting like a little kid who thought since a couple people made fun of your sand castle you would just smash it with your shovel and complain people made you do it because they made fun of you. You said your goal here was to help people, well, some of the things you said were helping people, but then you deleted everything, now all you did was waste your time when you put all of the work into this that you did, does it not seem that you are acting stupid by doing such a thing?

Seriously DJ? You've partied with me before and should know better.theres a reason the other post got locked. I'm not acting like a kid, I'm just fed up dealing with non sense. I have better things to do and better places to go than stick around people who don't want to look past themselves and accept others can be different.

And now you are falling into the same as others when I said you are replying without reading the entire conversation which leads to misunderstanding.

[Demon6324236]

I don't need to read an entire conversation to see that your guide that was meant to help people was deleted. You think no info was helpful in there? No, some was, that's obvious, and people are coming back to look at it now, but guess what, its gone, you removed it, why? You got criticism, are you telling me you accepted it and said it was a good piece of advice to add on? No, from what parts I did see and read it seemed like you were arguing that there are options, and they were wrong, starting fights with people which caused all of this. The thing with options and your statement of 'people need to look past themselves and accept others are different' is that you are arguing with these same people about their attempt to explain things to you which are in fact different, and in some cases, easier improvements for players.

The main thing I saw you argue about with these people is the Emp Staff and the Owleyes, and in this argument I dare you to tell me that its easier to make the Emp Staff or even the WoE staff than it is to get Owleyes, but you cant, and wont, because I know you man, your not stupid. I am not trying to be a dick, I know you, and I know what this looks like overall, you deleting your guide helped no one, not a single person. After the last few times I have talked to you when you have been talking about how you put all of your time into this, so much so I have not seen you around on FFXI in the last week, deleting now seems like a pointless move.

On top of everything else, think about who you really are doing harm by deleting it anyways. If you left it here and ignored people who were posting the feedback or criticism you could have continued or left it as it was, those in need of the assistance could have come and gone as the wished, and the people who gave you that same criticism could have added in things that would help as well. As of now, you have deleted this entire thread of everything helpful to those in need, did that hurt the people you were arguing with in any way shape or form? No, they knew all of this already, and if anything, they knew potentially more, which is why they argued with you about it, but the people who did need it, are the ones who you just hurt by taking it away.

Its like if you were in a place, cooking free food for those in need, then a couple wealthy business men walk in and tell you that your food tastes horrible, and all of a sudden you yell for everyone to get out and then set the place on fire. All you just did was screw the homeless people who were in need, and getting your assistance out of that same assistance, the wealthy business men aren't helping, they might have the money, but where is their free food to those in need? No where, and you just burnt down the one place they had. This thread was that place to an extent, a guide to try helping people who are in need in this game get on their feet and try getting something done, rather than giving up on it because everyone tries to skip to the end. I do not see these other people making a guide like this, not even trying, no real attempt it seems, so while they talk big about knowing more, where is their guide? When they have that, then they can put you down, then they can tell you that your doing more harm than good, but till then, the best they should ever offer is feedback and advice, and all you should do, is accept that, and continue onward, rather than burning down your efforts to help that you put so much time into, and walking away.

You told me yesterday or day before you wanted me to come here and support you, I looked, I saw your argument, and I couldn't support you, because I did not agree with what you were doing. I was not about to go telling people that I agreed with you when I did not, I did not agree with the argument you had before, and I do not agree with the action you took as a result. If all you do at this point man is walk away from this and give up, then you helped almost no one even though you put so much time in, and some people really were helped. If you try to rebuild on it and make it into a guide again, you might help more people, and do what you tried from the start, but if you do that, you have to be willing and able to accept the very same kind of feedback you resisted this time, and cause all of these problems. I hope you choose to go the path of helping more people, because while you seem to think it caused nothing but problems and deleted it, you put a lot of time into this, and I would hate to watch all of that work go to waste, especially with the amount of people you could help that are trying to get somewhere in this game, rather than standing around, lost and confused, or simply giving up.

[Daemon]

If it takes 1 person to step away and quit for that person to think about the next time they do it to someone else. So be it, I've accomplished my purpose.

[Demon6324236]

I thought your purpose was to help the people who are stuck in this game without the ability to get out of it because of not knowing how or where to start. Sorry for my misunderstanding man, just leave and give up on people, that will solve everything and do what you set out to do I guess.

I tried to explain to you as a friend what happened here, and where you have went wrong in what you seemed to be trying to do, I suppose as a friend I failed you in that part, I apologies for my failure. Bye Ultimas, was nice knowing you man, Ill miss doin stuff like WoE with ya and shootin the shit with ya about RDM & SCH.

[Daemon]

I thought your purpose was to help the people who are stuck in this game without the ability to get out of it because of not knowing how or where to start. Sorry for my misunderstanding man, just leave and give up on people, that will solve everything and do what you set out to do I guess.

I tried to explain to you as a friend what happened here, and where you have went wrong in what you seemed to be trying to do, I suppose as a friend I failed you in that part, I apologies for my failure. Bye Ultimas, was nice knowing you man, Ill miss doin stuff like WoE with ya and shootin the shit with ya about RDM & SCH.

You are awesome, my LS friends are too, however I just don't like how the community has changed over Delve. I tried to help, rather than seeing that from those who critcized and judged me, my motivation to stay has been shot down. Instead it was more important to prove me wrong rather than see the bigger picture taking us off topic. Why stay for what reason? People I see around town seem to be miserable because "NO ONE WANTS TO HELP ANYBODY" and when I tried to touch the topic.. I get criticized for it. As much as I wanted to stay.. I have no motivation anymore. Going to properly say goodye to everyone I know on Phoenix before my account ends. Thanks.

[Daemon]

I'm moving my guide somewhere else because it doesn't belong on the forums, I've saved the notes. Or I will email them to you DJ.

[Toukai]

Can you send me a copy as well? There was a lot of pertinent information in there I'd like to go over. (@ work and surprised its so slow on the 4th o July) I'll figure out a way to get my email to ya if you're willing to share.

[Daemon]

If u did like my guide, please leave a comment. If I see enough people interested, I will put it back up in a new thread and continue to add more details. After all might as well spill out all secrets since I'm moving on. From adding more details to gil farming....

It's your fault DJ.. Just know that.

[Demonicpagan]

If u did like my guide, please leave a comment. If I see enough people interested, I will put it back up in a new thread and continue to add more details. After all might as well spill out all secrets since I'm moving on. From adding more details to gil farming....

I liked the information you posted and would like to be educated more from your experience