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    Quote Originally Posted by Karah View Post
    So we know how good you are for posting art work you found on the web yay.

    And this is coming from the mind of an adult.

    Due to not wanting to further continue any debates, arguments or negative comments of hatred, I hope the devs will lock this post and let it die.
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    I just truly and honestly want to see how many times you'll continue to reply.

    You accuse me of something, well, I may as well make you honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karah View Post
    I just truly and honestly want to see how many times you'll continue to reply.

    You accuse me of something, well, I may as well make you honest.
    What was it you said on the other post? Ok campers what?

    And yet you still continue to provoke me to answer you. And rather than ignore you as if you don't exist. I've shown respect and modesty by acknowledging you.

    Hit like comment was enough for me to erase my guide thanks.

    Due to not wanting to further continue any debates, arguments or negative comments of hatred, I hope the devs will lock this post and let it die.
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    Last edited by Daemon; 07-04-2013 at 08:45 PM.

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    You have to admit advocating full timing hvergelmir is pretty stupid. That's what that was in regards too.

    Honestly, I give anyone who even equips one shit when I see them, (disclaimer, I do own one).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karah View Post
    You have to admit advocating full timing hvergelmir is pretty stupid. That's what that was in regards too.

    Honestly, I give anyone who even equips one shit when I see them, (disclaimer, I do own one).
    And did you even read the part where I said Full time during the Regain phase? How else do you use it then? Am I suppose to engage battle and raise it?

    If I'm already raising the entire parties TP(Including mine) through Adloquium then why not use it especially if Plasm party is NOT boss party where you need to use capped potency.

    And in case you are doing bosses where you run out of other MP recovery options wouldn't Icarus wing and Myrkr help "at the moment?" As a last resort?

    If I'm already doing a good job keeping party alive then what's the issue? It's accomplishing the same thing either way. I just chose to make use of the TP I gained from Adloquium which also keeps me focused on keeping that spell up as first priority rather than forget.

    Yeah key to this is so I won't forget to keep Adloquium up on all members.

    Even without cure potency staff I could have 36% Cure Potency with

    Oretanias Cape +4%
    Roundel earring +5%
    Serpentes set 5%
    Hekas 15%
    Augurs gloves 4%
    Fylga Torque 3%

    That's only gear. Therefore I don't lose TP for not switching weapon.

    That's not good enough with Phalanx, Regen V up? I mean I really need to have 50% cure potency for plasm farming?

    And why is it so bad to use Hvelgamir if I spent all that effort earning it?
    But then again I'm wrong right?


    That was my argument on why I said it wasn't worthless.

    By the way my team has been netting 9k plasm per run playing the build I chose to play without any issue.

    But it does not matter about experience and skills of the person playing the job, it's about statistics and mechanics right?

    (Disclaimer: I never said my build was the only way, or the best way. I just choose to play different than others. And yes I own Hvelgamir too.)
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    Last edited by Daemon; 07-04-2013 at 09:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    And in case you are doing bosses where you run out of other MP recovery options wouldn't Icarus wing and Myrkr help "at the moment?"
    No, for that the Vile elixirs are a great help, and if it happens that I am out of mine and need more we have our melee bring and bazaar them.
    An icarus wing leaves you medicated for 2 hours, so for a meager 20% return of your mp it's not worth it.

    And if you need several Viles to cope with MP consumption there's something else terribly amiss.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Even without cure potency staff I could have 36% Cure Potency with

    Oretanias Cape +4%
    Roundel earring +5%
    Serpentes set 5%
    Hekas 15%
    Augurs gloves 4%
    Fylga Torque 3%
    Interesting, two pairs of gloves in one set, and still faaar from optimal.

    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/306862
    Add in a pair of augmented Zentih pumps and voila, capped cure potency.
    I'm sure people can make more optimal sets, but this is what I could come up with quickly with reasonably obtainable gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirai View Post
    No, for that the Vile elixirs are a great help, and if it happens that I am out of mine and need more we have our melee bring and bazaar them.
    An icarus wing leaves you medicated for 2 hours, so for a meager 20% return of your mp it's not worth it.

    And if you need several Viles to cope with MP consumption there's something else terribly amiss.



    Interesting, two pairs of gloves in one set, and still faaar from optimal.

    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/306862
    Add in a pair of augmented Zentih pumps and voila, capped cure potency.
    I'm sure people can make more optimal sets, but this is what I could come up with quickly with reasonably obtainable gear.
    Yeah ok point wasn't about whats best. Point was do I really need 50% cure potency for plasm farming when I'm not having trouble keeping the team alive, buffed and have no issue depending on myself to recover mp without the support of Bard and Cor?

    And Vile Elixer+1 is 180k on my sever and you can only use it once being that its Rare item. Which I almost never have to use.

    You see you both are still continuing to prove that I'm wrong for choosing to play a different style than yours. And trying to prove I'm wrong for playing the way I want.

    I never said your build is wrong. I never said mine is the best. I'm saying Hvelgamir is not worthless and has its uses. And that my style of play is not the same as everyone else.
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    Last edited by Daemon; 07-04-2013 at 10:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Even without cure potency staff I could have 36% Cure Potency with

    Oretanias Cape +4%
    Roundel earring +5%
    Serpentes set 5%
    Hekas 15%
    Augurs gloves 4%
    Fylga Torque 3%

    That's not good enough with Regen V up? I mean I really need 50% for plasm farming?
    You have talked about being mp efficient in the other thread that was locked. Don't you see how purposely having less than 50% cure potency is the exact opposite of being mp efficient?



    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    By they way my team has been netting 9k plasm per run playing the build I chose to play without any issue.
    More than anything that's going to be because the DDs aren't shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamoa View Post
    You have talked about being mp efficient in the other thread that was locked. Don't you see how purposely having less than 50% cure potency is the exact opposite of being mp efficient?
    In other threads I explained that "you have other options" on how to keep mp up or keep heal up. The job has the abilities no?? Some people criticized me for suggesting Rapture. Why do we even have the skill then?? If I can keep MP up regardless why is it a problem on wanting to enjoy the EMP staff I earned?? I never said I had a problem being effecient.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tamoa View Post
    More than anything that's going to be because the DDs aren't shit.
    Yeah ok. So Scholar absolutely makes no difference from Protect & Shell V, Adloquium, Phalanx, Stoneskin, Enblizzard, Haste, Firestorm +7 STR, Regen V and Embrava.
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