The Future of FFXI

[SqEnisfilledwithgeniuses]

Game probably barely costs them much upkeep with the sub fee they have and the staff they have supporting it. People will still play it years to come, look at other examples like EQ and Ultima Online. All you doomsday idiots need to seriously get lost and play your precious FFXIV. I'm sure a lot of us are tired of your silly delusions of FFXI dying just like it was dying 2 years ago when FFXIV first launched lol.

Before you moronically smash your keyboard to form words and sentences, you should probably be informed of something.

The majority of the people saying XI is doomed, aren't saying it because it's a great game. It's because SE has taken the callous stance of generally not caring about XI. Why not glance at the updates planned for July? Really not impressive.

I will go play XIV, thanks. Not because it's precious to me, but because it's a good game, that SE is actively paying attention to.

And it's not a delusion, enjoy your mass server merge post XIV launch. I'll be enjoying a new game with friends while you're shouting for 2 hours to grind delve for plasm.

[Yinnyth]

And it's not a delusion, enjoy your mass server merge post XIV launch. I'll be enjoying a new game with friends while you're shouting for 2 hours to grind delve for plasm.

Until you become familiar with FFXIV and learn of its shortcomings. You'll suggest fixes, and every now and then, SE might listen. But as time wears on, you begin to grow weary. Frustrations in the game which have existed for years still have not been addressed and just keep stacking up, one after another. Last update added nothing you wanted and you just can't fathom why the devs aren't fixing the things which are actually important to you.

As a last resort, you create an anonymous account on the forums with a sarcastic and insulting name to the company you have lost all faith in. Using this account which hides your identity only from the players (because the devs can easily track your IP address and link it to your actual character), you begin railing against anyone who defends anything SE has ever done. Why don't they see the truth? SE is corrupt and incompetent. These people need to be educated, but nothing seems to stick to their teflon brain.

But it's all ok, because Final Fantasy 17 comes out in only 3 months. While those morons keep grinding away in their antiquated game, you'll be living it up in a perfect virtual world where people aren't selfish jerks, and the devs don't waste your subscription fee.

[SqEnisfilledwithgeniuses]

Until you become familiar with FFXIV and learn of its shortcomings. You'll suggest fixes, and every now and then, SE might listen. But as time wears on, you begin to grow weary. Frustrations in the game which have existed for years still have not been addressed and just keep stacking up, one after another. Last update added nothing you wanted and you just can't fathom why the devs aren't fixing the things which are actually important to you.

As a last resort, you create an anonymous account on the forums with a sarcastic and insulting name to the company you have lost all faith in. Using this account which hides your identity only from the players (because the devs can easily track your IP address and link it to your actual character), you begin railing against anyone who defends anything SE has ever done. Why don't they see the truth? SE is corrupt and incompetent. These people need to be educated, but nothing seems to stick to their teflon brain.

But it's all ok, because Final Fantasy 17 comes out in only 3 months. While those morons keep grinding away in their antiquated game, you'll be living it up in a perfect virtual world where people aren't selfish jerks, and the devs don't waste your subscription fee.

Kaijin > Valefor
2006~Present

Mules:
Tarualchemist
Stoarmoar
Raesk


I usually play around 12am-4am EST.

Never said FFXI wasn't a great game, and never said XIV will be a perfect game. In the end they're all still SqEn games. All I'm saying is XIV is something new, and refreshing, that is actually fun to play. XI is currently lacking that in my opinion.

I fully understand that XIV will potentially grow dull, and maybe by then XI will have had the issues corrected. If that ever happens, I might even pick XI back up again. But I'm not going to continue to pay service fees for something that's growing increasingly less fun to play.

*Edit*
You can also see my characters from the SE account management system. Looks kinda like this...

Stoarmoar@Valefor
To be cancelled Jul. 3, 2013

Tarualchemist@Valefor
To be cancelled Jul. 3, 2013

Raesk@Valefor
To be cancelled Jul. 3, 2013

Kaijin@Valefor
To be cancelled Jul. 3, 2013

[Yinnyth]

Never said FFXI wasn't a great game

You're right, "FFXI wasn't a great game" were never your exact words. But these are(from other topics):

I'm sorry, but SE's "deal with it brah" mentality doesn't impress me. A brain damaged chimp slamming its face into a keyboard could have come up with a better system than this.

A brain damaged chimp slamming its face into a keyboard would result in a system better than abyssea VW NMs. But FFXI is still a great game, yeah?

Also off topic. My favorite tool is a shield. They mindlessly defend whoever paid to hide behind them.

Forum reps are a tool. They mindlessly defend the devs who hide behind the forum reps for all the bad decisions they make.

They get an A for effort though. A giant trainwreck.

They tried "hard", but SoA is a failure. (they tried hard to make us all quit the game and move to 14).

I got accepted to the PS3 beta as well. Just saying, FFXI is about to get smashed. Clearly SE has listened to requests and suggestions, they just put it in the wrong game.

FFXIV: A Realm Reborn
FFXI: A Realm Aborted

14 is the future, 11 was dead before it was born!!!

Or...you could spend 5 minutes in 14 and be hooked like the rest of us.

Don't play 11, play 14! It has shinies!



Seriously, you have yet to extol... anything about FFXI. You have only negative things to say. You even used this opportunity to say you've cancelled your accounts. "But don't worry, y'all, FFXI is still a great game even though I've had nothing but negative things to say about it and I've cancelled all my accounts."

Edit: I will admit though, revealing your account information was a class act. Well played, sir.

[Vil]

Game probably barely costs them much upkeep with the sub fee they have and the staff they have supporting it. People will still play it years to come, look at other examples like EQ and Ultima Online. All you doomsday idiots need to seriously get lost and play your precious FFXIV. I'm sure a lot of us are tired of your silly delusions of FFXI dying just like it was dying 2 years ago when FFXIV first launched lol.

You're right, poeple will continue to play this game as long as there is continual updated content. The problem with XI, unlike your examples of Ultima and EQ, is that XI is tied down by the PS2, the console it was originally coded for. Had it been only for the PC, I'm sure we would have seen some significant improvements in the structure of the game, including UI interface and inventory. Instead, the game is limited in number of inventory slots, spell slots, auto translate, you name it. It is unable to expand beyond the limitations of the PS2. Ultima and EQ are able to expand and keep up with current technology because it can continually expand as computer hardware becomes bigger and better and. PS2? The console is all but dead. And you can't upgrade its hardware to meet today's technology.

This is really the issue that SE won't let go of. Yeah, I know they still have a Japanese playerbase on PS2. But they've already alienated the North American PS2 players by not releasing Adoulin. It stings, but yeah, if they can pull this on the US market, why can they not do the same for the JPs? Drop the PS2 support, and give this game the freedom it needs to expand and evolve to today. THAT is the issue plaguing XI, and why there are so many "doomsdayers". While I don't believe this game will completely shut down anytime soon, I do believe there will be a large drop in subs.

Our "precious" XIV is doing exactly what I outlined above. It's coded in such a way that can be continually updated onto nex-gen consoles. I mean, it's not even released on ps3 yet, and we've already gotten confirmation that it will be out on ps4 sometime next year.

Also, who is this "us" that you speak on behalf of? the bitter part of the community that wants to see XIV die in the vain hope that its death will fix XI's problems? Newsflash: SE is one company, yes, but the development teams are different. XI has its own team, XIV has its own team, which both differ from the devs that develop the console games. XIV's death won't suddenly bring players flocking back to XI, nor will it say "hey, XIV failed, I'm a new gamer, I should check out XI!"

tl;dr, don't scapegoat XIV for XI's problems.

[Daemon]

You're right, poeple will continue to play this game as long as there is continual updated content. The problem with XI, unlike your examples of Ultima and EQ, is that XI is tied down by the PS2, the console it was originally coded for. Had it been only for the PC, I'm sure we would have seen some significant improvements in the structure of the game, including UI interface and inventory. Instead, the game is limited in number of inventory slots, spell slots, auto translate, you name it. It is unable to expand beyond the limitations of the PS2. Ultima and EQ are able to expand and keep up with current technology because it can continually expand as computer hardware becomes bigger and better and. PS2? The console is all but dead. And you can't upgrade its hardware to meet today's technology.

This is really the issue that SE won't let go of. Yeah, I know they still have a Japanese playerbase on PS2. But they've already alienated the North American PS2 players by not releasing Adoulin. It stings, but yeah, if they can pull this on the US market, why can they not do the same for the JPs? Drop the PS2 support, and give this game the freedom it needs to expand and evolve to today. THAT is the issue plaguing XI, and why there are so many "doomsdayers". While I don't believe this game will completely shut down anytime soon, I do believe there will be a large drop in subs.

Our "precious" XIV is doing exactly what I outlined above. It's coded in such a way that can be continually updated onto nex-gen consoles. I mean, it's not even released on ps3 yet, and we've already gotten confirmation that it will be out on ps4 sometime next year.

Also, who is this "us" that you speak on behalf of? the bitter part of the community that wants to see XIV die in the vain hope that its death will fix XI's problems? Newsflash: SE is one company, yes, but the development teams are different. XI has its own team, XIV has its own team, which both differ from the devs that develop the console games. XIV's death won't suddenly bring players flocking back to XI, nor will it say "hey, XIV failed, I'm a new gamer, I should check out XI!"

tl;dr, don't scapegoat XIV for XI's problems.

And this is why I made this post to begin with, he explained it in much more detail than me but I think we both agree on the same point.

Now if only you people all could hit "Like" for touching this topic on the right spot

[Zumi]

Game probably barely costs them much upkeep with the sub fee they have and the staff they have supporting it. People will still play it years to come, look at other examples like EQ and Ultima Online. All you doomsday idiots need to seriously get lost and play your precious FFXIV. I'm sure a lot of us are tired of your silly delusions of FFXI dying just like it was dying 2 years ago when FFXIV first launched lol.

You're the one who is delusional if you don't think the quality of service and updates on FFXI has not gone down in the recent months.

[Damane]

You're the one who is delusional if you don't think the quality of service and updates on FFXI has not gone down in the recent months.

thats the biggest bullshit I have read. The quality of the updates has gone significantly up the last few months. I dont have to remind people about version updates at lvl 75 cap (few months pre lvl cap raise) and during VW legion... now that was not so quality updates, but the last few months had very great updates.

[Alerith]

thats the biggest bullshit I have read. The quality of the updates has gone significantly up the last few months. I dont have to remind people about version updates at lvl 75 cap (few months pre lvl cap raise) and during VW legion... now that was not so quality updates, but the last few months had very great updates.

This is a joke, right?

I'd love to hear some examples and comparisons. Not to mention the multitude of things that were said to be coming yet have not been released years later.

[Demon6324236]

thats the biggest bullshit I have read. The quality of the updates has gone significantly up the last few months. I dont have to remind people about version updates at lvl 75 cap (few months pre lvl cap raise) and during VW legion... now that was not so quality updates, but the last few months had very great updates.

Quality has gone down, how many updates before caused such a large amount of lost subs, such an outrage of players, or changed the direction of the game so radically as to flip the entire design on its head? Sure, they amount of things they pack into an update has gone up, the quantity has gone up, the quality is not nearly as high as it should be though, it is sorely lacking!