The Future of FFXI

[SqEnisfilledwithgeniuses]

Game probably barely costs them much upkeep with the sub fee they have and the staff they have supporting it. People will still play it years to come, look at other examples like EQ and Ultima Online. All you doomsday idiots need to seriously get lost and play your precious FFXIV. I'm sure a lot of us are tired of your silly delusions of FFXI dying just like it was dying 2 years ago when FFXIV first launched lol.

Before you moronically smash your keyboard to form words and sentences, you should probably be informed of something.

The majority of the people saying XI is doomed, aren't saying it because it's a great game. It's because SE has taken the callous stance of generally not caring about XI. Why not glance at the updates planned for July? Really not impressive.

I will go play XIV, thanks. Not because it's precious to me, but because it's a good game, that SE is actively paying attention to.

And it's not a delusion, enjoy your mass server merge post XIV launch. I'll be enjoying a new game with friends while you're shouting for 2 hours to grind delve for plasm.

[Vil]

Game probably barely costs them much upkeep with the sub fee they have and the staff they have supporting it. People will still play it years to come, look at other examples like EQ and Ultima Online. All you doomsday idiots need to seriously get lost and play your precious FFXIV. I'm sure a lot of us are tired of your silly delusions of FFXI dying just like it was dying 2 years ago when FFXIV first launched lol.

You're right, poeple will continue to play this game as long as there is continual updated content. The problem with XI, unlike your examples of Ultima and EQ, is that XI is tied down by the PS2, the console it was originally coded for. Had it been only for the PC, I'm sure we would have seen some significant improvements in the structure of the game, including UI interface and inventory. Instead, the game is limited in number of inventory slots, spell slots, auto translate, you name it. It is unable to expand beyond the limitations of the PS2. Ultima and EQ are able to expand and keep up with current technology because it can continually expand as computer hardware becomes bigger and better and. PS2? The console is all but dead. And you can't upgrade its hardware to meet today's technology.

This is really the issue that SE won't let go of. Yeah, I know they still have a Japanese playerbase on PS2. But they've already alienated the North American PS2 players by not releasing Adoulin. It stings, but yeah, if they can pull this on the US market, why can they not do the same for the JPs? Drop the PS2 support, and give this game the freedom it needs to expand and evolve to today. THAT is the issue plaguing XI, and why there are so many "doomsdayers". While I don't believe this game will completely shut down anytime soon, I do believe there will be a large drop in subs.

Our "precious" XIV is doing exactly what I outlined above. It's coded in such a way that can be continually updated onto nex-gen consoles. I mean, it's not even released on ps3 yet, and we've already gotten confirmation that it will be out on ps4 sometime next year.

Also, who is this "us" that you speak on behalf of? the bitter part of the community that wants to see XIV die in the vain hope that its death will fix XI's problems? Newsflash: SE is one company, yes, but the development teams are different. XI has its own team, XIV has its own team, which both differ from the devs that develop the console games. XIV's death won't suddenly bring players flocking back to XI, nor will it say "hey, XIV failed, I'm a new gamer, I should check out XI!"

tl;dr, don't scapegoat XIV for XI's problems.

[Yinnyth]

And it's not a delusion, enjoy your mass server merge post XIV launch. I'll be enjoying a new game with friends while you're shouting for 2 hours to grind delve for plasm.

Until you become familiar with FFXIV and learn of its shortcomings. You'll suggest fixes, and every now and then, SE might listen. But as time wears on, you begin to grow weary. Frustrations in the game which have existed for years still have not been addressed and just keep stacking up, one after another. Last update added nothing you wanted and you just can't fathom why the devs aren't fixing the things which are actually important to you.

As a last resort, you create an anonymous account on the forums with a sarcastic and insulting name to the company you have lost all faith in. Using this account which hides your identity only from the players (because the devs can easily track your IP address and link it to your actual character), you begin railing against anyone who defends anything SE has ever done. Why don't they see the truth? SE is corrupt and incompetent. These people need to be educated, but nothing seems to stick to their teflon brain.

But it's all ok, because Final Fantasy 17 comes out in only 3 months. While those morons keep grinding away in their antiquated game, you'll be living it up in a perfect virtual world where people aren't selfish jerks, and the devs don't waste your subscription fee.

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Its been said before, that FFXIV was designed to replace this game.

XIV was designed to be extremely modular, partly for the sake of porting it to other platforms/input schemes/etc.

I can't claim that this was an intent, or that it will be used this way, but one of the advantages of such modularity is that it would make it that much easier to port XI to the XIV graphics engine/etc.

This is of course my own wild speculation, but I did note this: The 2.0 beta implemented an acorn-headed Lalafell model where 1.0 did not. Trying to make characters that look that much like XI characters (and years after 1.0's launch at that) feels like the result of some sort of proof-of-concept.

[Vil]

XIV was designed to be extremely modular, partly for the sake of porting it to other platforms/input schemes/etc.

I can't claim that this was an intent, or that it will be used this way, but one of the advantages of such modularity is that it would make it that much easier to port XI to the XIV graphics engine/etc.

This is of course my own wild speculation, but I did note this: The 2.0 beta implemented an acorn-headed Lalafell model where 1.0 did not. Trying to make characters that look that much like XI characters (and years after 1.0's launch at that) feels like the result of some sort of proof-of-concept.

I think you're grasping at straws here. The concept when XIV was first announced was to have the XI races for that bit of familiarity, for those who were transitioning into it from XI. Their background, storylines etc are considerably different. Even their race names are different. Aesthetically, they are similar, but that's where it ends.

The models themselves draw from the concepts of the XI races, but they are new models.

You pointed out the "acorn head lalafell" being an indicator, but this is merely them adding new additional hairstyles to expand character customization. Miqo'te got pigtails (which they didn't in 1.0) etc. Each race got stuff that wasn't in 1.0, and not all of it draws from XI concepts.

[Daemon]

You're right, poeple will continue to play this game as long as there is continual updated content. The problem with XI, unlike your examples of Ultima and EQ, is that XI is tied down by the PS2, the console it was originally coded for. Had it been only for the PC, I'm sure we would have seen some significant improvements in the structure of the game, including UI interface and inventory. Instead, the game is limited in number of inventory slots, spell slots, auto translate, you name it. It is unable to expand beyond the limitations of the PS2. Ultima and EQ are able to expand and keep up with current technology because it can continually expand as computer hardware becomes bigger and better and. PS2? The console is all but dead. And you can't upgrade its hardware to meet today's technology.

This is really the issue that SE won't let go of. Yeah, I know they still have a Japanese playerbase on PS2. But they've already alienated the North American PS2 players by not releasing Adoulin. It stings, but yeah, if they can pull this on the US market, why can they not do the same for the JPs? Drop the PS2 support, and give this game the freedom it needs to expand and evolve to today. THAT is the issue plaguing XI, and why there are so many "doomsdayers". While I don't believe this game will completely shut down anytime soon, I do believe there will be a large drop in subs.

Our "precious" XIV is doing exactly what I outlined above. It's coded in such a way that can be continually updated onto nex-gen consoles. I mean, it's not even released on ps3 yet, and we've already gotten confirmation that it will be out on ps4 sometime next year.

Also, who is this "us" that you speak on behalf of? the bitter part of the community that wants to see XIV die in the vain hope that its death will fix XI's problems? Newsflash: SE is one company, yes, but the development teams are different. XI has its own team, XIV has its own team, which both differ from the devs that develop the console games. XIV's death won't suddenly bring players flocking back to XI, nor will it say "hey, XIV failed, I'm a new gamer, I should check out XI!"

tl;dr, don't scapegoat XIV for XI's problems.

And this is why I made this post to begin with, he explained it in much more detail than me but I think we both agree on the same point.

Now if only you people all could hit "Like" for touching this topic on the right spot

[SqEnisfilledwithgeniuses]

Until you become familiar with FFXIV and learn of its shortcomings. You'll suggest fixes, and every now and then, SE might listen. But as time wears on, you begin to grow weary. Frustrations in the game which have existed for years still have not been addressed and just keep stacking up, one after another. Last update added nothing you wanted and you just can't fathom why the devs aren't fixing the things which are actually important to you.

As a last resort, you create an anonymous account on the forums with a sarcastic and insulting name to the company you have lost all faith in. Using this account which hides your identity only from the players (because the devs can easily track your IP address and link it to your actual character), you begin railing against anyone who defends anything SE has ever done. Why don't they see the truth? SE is corrupt and incompetent. These people need to be educated, but nothing seems to stick to their teflon brain.

But it's all ok, because Final Fantasy 17 comes out in only 3 months. While those morons keep grinding away in their antiquated game, you'll be living it up in a perfect virtual world where people aren't selfish jerks, and the devs don't waste your subscription fee.

Kaijin > Valefor
2006~Present

Mules:
Tarualchemist
Stoarmoar
Raesk


I usually play around 12am-4am EST.

Never said FFXI wasn't a great game, and never said XIV will be a perfect game. In the end they're all still SqEn games. All I'm saying is XIV is something new, and refreshing, that is actually fun to play. XI is currently lacking that in my opinion.

I fully understand that XIV will potentially grow dull, and maybe by then XI will have had the issues corrected. If that ever happens, I might even pick XI back up again. But I'm not going to continue to pay service fees for something that's growing increasingly less fun to play.

*Edit*
You can also see my characters from the SE account management system. Looks kinda like this...

Stoarmoar@Valefor
To be cancelled Jul. 3, 2013

Tarualchemist@Valefor
To be cancelled Jul. 3, 2013

Raesk@Valefor
To be cancelled Jul. 3, 2013

Kaijin@Valefor
To be cancelled Jul. 3, 2013

[Zumi]

Game probably barely costs them much upkeep with the sub fee they have and the staff they have supporting it. People will still play it years to come, look at other examples like EQ and Ultima Online. All you doomsday idiots need to seriously get lost and play your precious FFXIV. I'm sure a lot of us are tired of your silly delusions of FFXI dying just like it was dying 2 years ago when FFXIV first launched lol.

You're the one who is delusional if you don't think the quality of service and updates on FFXI has not gone down in the recent months.

[Yinnyth]

Never said FFXI wasn't a great game

You're right, "FFXI wasn't a great game" were never your exact words. But these are(from other topics):

I'm sorry, but SE's "deal with it brah" mentality doesn't impress me. A brain damaged chimp slamming its face into a keyboard could have come up with a better system than this.

A brain damaged chimp slamming its face into a keyboard would result in a system better than abyssea VW NMs. But FFXI is still a great game, yeah?

Also off topic. My favorite tool is a shield. They mindlessly defend whoever paid to hide behind them.

Forum reps are a tool. They mindlessly defend the devs who hide behind the forum reps for all the bad decisions they make.

They get an A for effort though. A giant trainwreck.

They tried "hard", but SoA is a failure. (they tried hard to make us all quit the game and move to 14).

I got accepted to the PS3 beta as well. Just saying, FFXI is about to get smashed. Clearly SE has listened to requests and suggestions, they just put it in the wrong game.

FFXIV: A Realm Reborn
FFXI: A Realm Aborted

14 is the future, 11 was dead before it was born!!!

Or...you could spend 5 minutes in 14 and be hooked like the rest of us.

Don't play 11, play 14! It has shinies!



Seriously, you have yet to extol... anything about FFXI. You have only negative things to say. You even used this opportunity to say you've cancelled your accounts. "But don't worry, y'all, FFXI is still a great game even though I've had nothing but negative things to say about it and I've cancelled all my accounts."

Edit: I will admit though, revealing your account information was a class act. Well played, sir.

[Daemon]

You're right, "FFXI wasn't a great game" were never your exact words. But these are(from other topics):



A brain damaged chimp slamming its face into a keyboard would result in a system better than abyssea VW NMs. But FFXI is still a great game, yeah?



Forum reps are a tool. They mindlessly defend the devs who hide behind the forum reps for all the bad decisions they make.



They tried "hard", but SoA is a failure. (they tried hard to make us all quit the game and move to 14).



14 is the future, 11 was dead before it was born!!!



Don't play 11, play 14! It has shinies!



Seriously, you have yet to extol... anything about FFXI. You have only negative things to say. You even used this opportunity to say you've cancelled your accounts. "But don't worry, y'all, FFXI is still a great game even though I've had nothing but negative things to say about it and I've cancelled all my accounts."

Edit: I will admit though, revealing your account information was a class act. Well played, sir.

I admit I've said some pretty bad things too about FFXI but seriously the majority of us do feel bitter right now because we are seeing so many negative things that are changing the way the game use to be. I'm all out for changes but now the game is out of control on balance. And SE has not been giving us the proper attention to us loyal fans who not only stuck with this game for over a decade, we've done our part every month filling up the Crysta, Swiping in our Debit/Credit each month to continue our subscription. Rushed to the nearest online store or SE site to pay for every single expansion yet lately the way things are going we all do feel it's unfair that many promises were broken, new expansion seems it wasn't well thought out but rather rushed to keep us interested than flock over and play the 14 beta.

Lots of us are feeling disappointed that 14 is getting so much attention while we are here left in the dark playing a broken Expansion. Sigh this is too depressing to even continue on writing more.