Adoulin: Scrolls of Instant Protect

[Umichi]

I don't think you know how the value of a dollar works, while it did at one point equate to the value of gold that hasn't been true in the united states for a long time consider as a country we've printed much more money that we have in gold at least based on known values.

When I was a child candy bars were 60 cents or 2 for a dollar at 7 eleven. Now they're 1.29 or 2 for 2 dollars. Back then minimum wage was $3.35 (late 80s when I started becoming aware of the value of money) today minimum wage is $7.25. The cost of a candy bar has essentially doubled in that time and so has the minimum wage thus keeping the value the same.

actually minimum wage has stayed the same.... the cost of the candy bar has risen..

[Umichi]

Work on NNI and let me know how true your statements are after that. I bet you'll be changing your legs out, as to the feet (assuming legs was a typo for feet) I question why you haven't visited abyssea for Ace's Leggings or Emp +1/2 feet. This is in context of your main job being set to DRG in your info section by the way.

1) I don't have the people to do ace's legging and I've no interest in them personally.

2) you obviously don't know how elite people are at NNI or you'd be aware no one wants anything outside of a drk, mnk, sam, war, or some other typical job slot that has been dominant the past 5ish years i've been playing.

3) my feet are almost to +2 but i find the lack of people able to or willing to help is staggering for the nm's that i need

and fourthly i meant my hands and legs are kareiyeh

[Umichi]

1) I don't have the people to do ace's legging and I've no interest in them personally.

2) you obviously don't know how elite people are at NNI or you'd be aware no one wants anything outside of a drk, mnk, sam, war, or some other typical job slot that has been dominant the past 5ish years i've been playing.

3) my feet are almost to +2 but i find the lack of people able to or willing to help is staggering for the nm's that i need

and fourthly i meant my hands and legs are kareiyeh

i would however settle for phorcy's leggings over aces.

[Zagen]

He's right though Zagen, Its about the currency availability. If in Real life you could go spent 15 Minutes doing a "job" and make 1,000~1,500$, Milky ways would probably be 100$. These Currencies in Vana'Diel simply do not have the same standards as real life, therefor the Comparison/example is almost idiotic to the point of ludicrous. (I say this knowing you weren't the one who originally made the comparison Zags so don't worry ^^!).

Personally, I understand their logic in making it Protect III, and I get the pricing point... But as it stands, despite what i said above and the idiocy of a RL comparison to milky ways that felt like it sounded logical in the head of a 1st grader... I do believe the price should be reduced slightly, maybe by 50%. 1k Bayld is, while low, a bit steep for a Protect III, though i fully acknowledge the advantages of having such a thing on hand when solo or without a mage to cast it on you, which was likely the intended use for them. (duh).

I missed the part where a given currency in game just comes out of thin air. You still have to work for it, thus it is comparable to real life currency because that doesn't just come out of thin air either.

While some might find doing X event that gives Y currency fun that doesn't change it from being equatable to work, some people have fun working in real life too.

[Demon6324236]

i full time the kareyiah pants

Well... ok then.

[Umichi]

Well... ok then.

ok then what?

[Umichi]

I missed the part where a given currency in game just comes out of thin air. You still have to work for it, thus it is comparable to real life currency because that doesn't just come out of thin air either.

While some might find doing X event that gives Y currency fun that doesn't change it from being equatable to work, some people have fun working in real life too.

I don't see you getting permission from a federal reserve to print more money for the players to readily have acess to and pool all their funds from what is set into the game do you? hence money can be pulled from thin air.

[OmnysValefor]

Again missing the point.

As to the Bayld armor considering none of them are worth full timing meaning once you swap them out the HP/MP is lost they aren't even worth upgrading now, so raising the cost doesn't do anything.

This is silly, and wrong.

You just said that when you swap out the light-armor feet, or the plate hands (if you happen to TP in those), you've wasted the hp but that's not true. You make a one-second swap to ws harder. Should the healers not heal you back to full? The 40 hp you gain from the pieces can, and has, saved lives, and indirectly, made for a success.

It's common that ws swaps will create 100 hp to cure, in non-hp builds. Healers should still put it back.

+HP on ws-only gear is the only wasted +HP, unless of course it aligns with +HP on tp'ing gear.. but sigh.

[Zagen]

I don't see you getting permission from a federal reserve to print more money for the players to readily have acess to and pool all their funds from what is set into the game do you? hence money can be pulled from thin air.

Again how did you get said Bayld by doing nothing?

[Umichi]

He's right though Zagen, Its about the currency availability. If in Real life you could go spent 15 Minutes doing a "job" and make 1,000~1,500$, Milky ways would probably be 100$. These Currencies in Vana'Diel simply do not have the same standards as real life, therefor the Comparison/example is almost idiotic to the point of ludicrous. (I say this knowing you weren't the one who originally made the comparison Zags so don't worry ^^!).

Personally, I understand their logic in making it Protect III, and I get the pricing point... But as it stands, despite what i said above and the idiocy of a RL comparison to milky ways that felt like it sounded logical in the head of a 1st grader... I do believe the price should be reduced slightly, maybe by 50%. 1k Bayld is, while low, a bit steep for a Protect III, though i fully acknowledge the advantages of having such a thing on hand when solo or without a mage to cast it on you, which was likely the intended use for them. (duh).

I concur, While i disagree with a drastic price drop.... or outright buffing of the spell..... I would not be against a decrease in price... however from my perspective the pricing is fair.... and I'm a fairly normal player, and i aquire enough bayld to satisfy my thirst.... seeing as how I'm sure most of you do delve I find it hard to believe your running low on bayld for such services in the first place... but then again you did decide to make the entire content introduced for SoA outside of delve irrelevant so far. so i can see how aquiring bayld could be such a task or bother now that your being forced to slow down. perhaps i'm wrong... who knows