Item Levels

[Rwolf]

There is no current reason to add this feature into the game. I'm fine with it actually displaying the level difference between myself and the monster for anyone who cares about this for some reason. However I see no point in penalizing experience points in the current state of the game. You can't just partially "balance" experience point gain. Unless they are planning to nerf all exploits of experience points such as Abyssea and Grounds of Valor, there is absolutely no reason to add this.

The development team and some players in this thread might see it as proper balance but it really is not. So I'm allowed to exploit experience points by taking advantage of being power leveled through Grounds of Valor pages? I'm also allowed to key chests or stand around in Abyssea, while someone with item level 120 weapons destroys mobs? But it's imbalanced to actually work on experience points for any reason with my own hard earned gear?

Like most players are stating in this thread, focus on something that matters. This balances nothing, it is just a nerf (not a big nerf but a nerf nonetheless) for no real justifiable reason in the game's current dynamic. If I put in the effort for getting the Delve boss win and 200,000 plasm, I deserve to go into older content unhindered and grind it to dust, laughing along the way. There is a sense of reward and progression that is noticeable, which is fun.

I get the concept that you're stronger but unless you're going to treat the entire game with that methodology, I see no point in doing so to only part of the game. It's more ridiculous to me they are spending development time trying to balance this versus fixing real problems with the game.

Don't spend time replacing perfectly working pipes when you have septic tanks leaking elsewhere left unrepaired.

[Nebo]

It's Definitely one of the more absurd things they've done in a while (and that's saying something)

As if the concept of instantly changing clothes mid battle wasn't silly enough...

Claim Mob (TH gear): I'm LEVEL 107 > Gear Swap (TP set) > LOOK I"M level 118 > Gear Swap (Weaponskill set) > LOOK I'M LEVEL 120 > Gearswap (PDT set) > AH man, now I'm level 105 > Gearswap (RACC land Acid Bolts) > LOOK I'M level 103

In one fight with one monster, a player will be constanty changing ilevels with gearswaps.

How did this idea even get past the "Hey, what about adding ilevels?" brainstorm phase?

edit:

inb4 massive lag due to ilevel check spam mid battle from gearswapping lol..

[Babygyrl]

and what about relics/mythic/emps/ whats this new item level system going to do to them exactly..?

[Siviard]

It's Definitely one of the more absurd things they've done in a while (and that's saying something)

As if the concept of instantly changing clothes mid battle wasn't silly enough...

Claim Mob (TH gear): I'm LEVEL 107 > Gear Swap (TP set) > LOOK I"M level 118 > Gear Swap (Weaponskill set) > LOOK I'M LEVEL 120 > Gearswap (PDT set) > AH man, now I'm level 105 > Gearswap (RACC land Acid Bolts) > LOOK I'M level 103

In one fight with one monster, a player will be constanty changing ilevels with gearswaps.

How did this idea even get past the "Hey, what about adding ilevels?" brainstorm phase?

edit:

inb4 massive lag due to ilevel check spam mid battle from gearswapping lol..

For endgame events, gear swapping is a non-issue.

If people are so worried about not being able to do something such as Magian Trials, DON'T USE GEAR SWAPS! It's so simple it's borderline stupid.

[Zhronne]

How about they don't break stuff that works instead so we don't have to stop making use of one of the core elements of the game?

[Zhronne]

With all of the talk "we can't do this" and "we can't do that" because their lack of manpower, dedicating time and resources to stuff like this is even more irritating, when there are so many more important things they could and should worry about.

I'm not saying that the current state of XP is allright, I'm just saying that at this point it's *completely irrelevant*.
Now if this was 2 years ago, maybe, I would have agreed with the doing something about XP (altough not this silly item-level solution), but doing something, anything now is completely pointless and steals resources from other way more important things that need to be addressed and need so NOW, before too much time has passed and they go unavoidably broken beyond repair too.

[Tamoa]

At this point I'd rather see SE giving summoners their new promised avatars than this ilevel thing. And what about our new special abilities? Both are things we were promised a long time ago. Not to mention fixing R/E/Ms, that should - in my opinion at least - be one of their very top priorities considering how many people are enraged by this, quite a few to the point where they've actually quit.


Edit: since I'm somewhat out of the loop after having taken my longest (and only) voluntary break from the game, including forums, it appears they're finally doing something regarding the new smn avatars? Maybe that's the case with our new abilities too then, I honestly haven't bothered checking. Those were the 2 things I could think of off the top of my head in regards to what they've promised us but not implemented yet (and avoided answering questions about it for a long time too, for the most part), I'm sure there are others though.

Point is, in my opinion they should prioritize things they've said they do over things like this.

Hell, give drgs different coloured wyverns, or give us the option to change race for a fee instead of ilevel. -.-

[FrankReynolds]

A quick tip for the Devs:

If you aren't fixing one of the myriad problems currently in the game, or adding some previously promised feature then you are probably not working on the right thing. This forum is brimming over with ideas for things to do. Your imagination needs to wait.

[Nebo]

For endgame events, gear swapping is a non-issue.

If people are so worried about not being able to do something such as Magian Trials, DON'T USE GEAR SWAPS! It's so simple it's borderline stupid.

Their whole reason for making this ilevel update is a non-issue. That is the point.

As for ilevels effecting Magian Trials:

1. It probably won't. They've kept mobs that are very low still EP to 99, seemingly for this reason.
2. If it does...who cares? Magian weapons aren't relevant any more except for a select few specialty ones that will likely be replaced soon.

[Babygyrl]

Follow xboxOne's example and Listen to our opinions fix relic/emps/mythics make them stronger, trials easier and we don't need this level stuff on items k thanks!