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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryozen View Post
    Then why not Tachi: Fushichō?
    It was more for the idea and my opinion...lol. Kanji just had this ring to it when I read up on Phoenix. But we're not discussing the reason I chose Kanji over Fushichō. We're discussing the idea of the Weapon-skill, the idea I have submitted.
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    Regardless of the fact that the term "Kanji" has nothing to do with the concept of the WS whatsoever?

    You've lost me there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryozen View Post
    Regardless of the fact that the term "Kanji" has nothing to do with the concept of the WS whatsoever?

    You've lost me there.
    Let me repost the Graphic image idea that I had so noone asks this question again.

    "Graphic image: The Samurai performs a 360 twirl of his Great Katana while quickly thrusting the blade into the ground; flames in the image of a "Bird-like" creature ignite upon impact blazing from the ground up while engolfing the targets within reach of the weapon-skill in flames."

    Clearly the flames in the image of a "Bird-like" creature would be that oh a Phoenix, in Japan, the Phoenix is called hō-ō (kanji: 鳳凰) or fushichō (不死鳥?), literally "Immortal Bird".

    Not trying to offend anyone, but please be sure to read carefully before you post a reply. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raka View Post
    Let me repost the Graphic image idea that I had so noone asks this question again.


    Not trying to offend anyone, but please be sure to read carefully before you post a reply. Thanks!
    Some people just look for reasons to give people crap about something. I know i read it right the first time, cool concept btw!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raka View Post
    Let me repost the Graphic image idea that I had so noone asks this question again.

    "Graphic image: The Samurai performs a 360 twirl of his Great Katana while quickly thrusting the blade into the ground; flames in the image of a "Bird-like" creature ignite upon impact blazing from the ground up while engolfing the targets within reach of the weapon-skill in flames."

    Clearly the flames in the image of a "Bird-like" creature would be that oh a Phoenix, in Japan, the Phoenix is called hō-ō (kanji: 鳳凰) or fushichō (不死鳥?), literally "Immortal Bird".

    Not trying to offend anyone, but please be sure to read carefully before you post a reply. Thanks!
    I read and comprehended your post. Originally you had suggested a name. I questioned it. You replied with your concept again, which is something I never addressed, and you never answered my question.

    Not trying to offend anyone, but you're missing the flow of the conversation here.
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    Last edited by Ryozen; 03-24-2011 at 02:14 PM. Reason: clarification

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryozen View Post
    I read and comprehended your post. Originally you had suggested a name. I questioned it. You replied with your concept again, which is something I never addressed, and you never answered my question.

    Not trying to offend anyone, but you're missing the flow of the conversation here.
    the name is the word for phoenix, the animation is of a flaming bird the "phoenix" wtf are u missing
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    Quote Originally Posted by krusnik213 View Post
    the name is the word for phoenix, the animation is of a flaming bird the "phoenix" wtf are u missing
    The name that Raka suggested is not the word for phoenix. Ryozen was correcting Raka, as several of us have been trying to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krusnik213 View Post
    the name is the word for phoenix, the animation is of a flaming bird the "phoenix" wtf are u missing
    The name of the Japanese mythological creature that is the equivalent of the western concept of the phoenix is hō-ō, and as I described in my last post, the mix-up as to why Raka thought that Kanji meant phoenix stems from misinterpreting the article that they posted, which was

    in Japan, the Phoenix is called hō-ō (kanji: 鳳凰) or fushichō (不死鳥?), literally "Immortal Bird"
    They interpreted that the text in the first set of parentheses was that kanji was a name for the phoenix/hō-ō, when all it's saying is that the name hō-ō is written in kanji as that.

    A clearer way of laying out what the article is really trying to say would be something along the lines of, "In Japan, the Phoenix is called hō-ō, which is written in kanji as 鳳凰. Its alternate name, fushichō, or "immortal bird", is written in kanji as 不死鳥"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raka View Post
    Let me repost the Graphic image idea that I had so noone asks this question again.

    "Graphic image: The Samurai performs a 360 twirl of his Great Katana while quickly thrusting the blade into the ground; flames in the image of a "Bird-like" creature ignite upon impact blazing from the ground up while engolfing the targets within reach of the weapon-skill in flames."

    Clearly the flames in the image of a "Bird-like" creature would be that oh a Phoenix, in Japan, the Phoenix is called hō-ō (kanji: 鳳凰) or fushichō (不死鳥?), literally "Immortal Bird".

    Not trying to offend anyone, but please be sure to read carefully before you post a reply. Thanks!
    I like the concept of the attack, but all Ryozen was simply meaning that kanji has nothing to do with the actual description of the attack. Kanji is a writing style in Japan and doesn't have anything to do with the description of the attack, nor does it have anything to do with the hō-ō or the fushichō. All the other great katana weaponskills have a name based on the attack animation (or in Tachi: Rana's case, the mythic weapon it's tied to), such as Tachi: Ageha showing butterflies when Ageha basically means Swallowtail butterfly, Tachi: Gekko shows a full moon and Gekko roughly means "moonlight", etc.

    Tachi: Kanji's animation would really have to be about writing characters for the name to fit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlorsutes View Post
    I like the concept of the attack, but all Ryozen was simply meaning that kanji has nothing to do with the actual description of the attack. Kanji is a writing style in Japan and doesn't have anything to do with the description of the attack, nor does it have anything to do with the hō-ō or the fushichō. All the other great katana weaponskills have a name based on the attack animation (or in Tachi: Rana's case, the mythic weapon it's tied to), such as Tachi: Ageha showing butterflies when Ageha basically means Swallowtail butterfly, Tachi: Gekko shows a full moon and Gekko roughly means "moonlight", etc.

    Tachi: Kanji's animation would really have to be about writing characters for the name to fit
    Tachi: Gekko shows a full moon and Gekko means Moonlight. Tachi: Kanji shows a Phoenix and Kanji means Phoenix. I was adding the quote from where I found this out at. It was merely a suggestion based on info that I had read up on and got the idea from this. This is the best way I can explain it, sorry if anyone has trouble understanding my explanation still.
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