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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    There are plenty of jobs that are much worse off than BST,
    Like what? Except for RUN (because it's a 2 month old infant) every job is very useful in a wide array of events. Every other job is useful in Delve. Hell even "useless" jobs like THF and SMN, get invited to Delve to pull and put up TH/Feint/PD. Every job except BST, which I can't even take into delve when I'm leading the group, because everyone disbands as soon as they realize I've left town without switching jobs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    and those jobs don't have a niche where they are actually very good.
    What's that niche? Because BST is my main, and literally every event is better done as a different job. I have to make a conscious choice to be crappier at whatever I'm doing, just to play the job I most enjoy.

    If you say Dynamis, you're just admitting you haven't played the game in 2 years, because BST was always inferior there to BLU and PUP and DNC/THF, and that was before we lost pet TH. And it's really terrible at it now, since you have to spend a large chunk of your earnings on jugs/pet food, while a PUP gets more currency, faster, safer, with white procs, and an untouchable, level 120, alternator fueled, free, badass puppet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louispv View Post
    Hell even "useless" jobs like THF and SMN, get invited to Delve to pull and put up TH/Feint/PD.
    Jobs I've never seen get invited to plasm farms: Smn Blm Geo Rng Nin Smn Blu Run Bst

    So not "every other job" gets invited to delve. Just saying.

    I have Bst at 99, I love the job, but when it comes to delve, I switch to whm sch cor mnk or pld. Job versatility goes a long way.

    *edit*

    Listed smn twice but decided to leave it since I haven't seen it, and probably will never see it in delve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SqEnisfilledwithgeniuses View Post
    Jobs I've never seen get invited to plasm farms: Smn Blm Geo Rng Nin Smn Blu Run Bst
    SMN is the best puller in delve, as you can link a NM with what you're pulling and drag it to the PLD without killing anyone, or pet pull and avoid the bosses entirely and not even need a PLD, and you need PD on any boss run. BLU comes in second best as a puller with the same possible eva as a THF or NIN, with native shadows, stoneskin, cures, sleepgas, and more available damage taken- tools. Hell they can even keep TH 2 on anything they pull if you really want those NQ airlixirs.

    No successful group ever does bosses either without at least 1 GEO, 2 if you're doing the megaboss, because Geo's enfeebles are the strongest buffs in the game, and stack with all the others. (the evasion- aura, for instance, adds more acc than double madrigals, and it applies to the entire alliance rather than one party)

    RNG is the preferred way to deal with the bee delve boss since their acc bonus cancels out her obscene evasion, and hate free damage from outside AoE range is pretty nice.

    BLM and NIN doesn't get any love in delve, but they are absolutely necessary, and in numbers in every single other event in the game, so meh. (for instance, a DD that can tank and a sleeper with magic damage for slime bosses are really necessary for skirmish.)

    Hell between the awesomeness of alternator, and the ability to use oaxitur, I'd bet a good PUP would outdo most DD's at this point.

    Like I said, just RUN and BST are left out of Delve, and I'm not certain RUN will stay that way. But I can't think of anything in which my BST is the best choice.

    If however, Infrasonics lasted longer than it took to put it up, and had good accuracy, and we could use Anna to put up vermin killer instinct in ceizak with infrasonics canceling out ceizak's evasion bonuses, we might be useful. If there were other pets with equally good enfeebles for all families so we could enfeeble and give killer instinct to every area, all the better.
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    Last edited by Louispv; 06-22-2013 at 02:28 AM.

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    Infrasonic last 3 mins and is on a 2 min recast which can be lowered by gear/merits so keeping it up full time would be viable.

    There are 2 simple things SE could do that would make BST more viable in delve.

    1. Increase the Accuracy and Magical Accuracy of sic/ready moves based on the amount of TP consumed.
    - Right now it doesn't seem to mater if you use 100 tp or 300 tp.

    2. Guarantee the activation of enfeebling effects from ready/sic moves performed while Spur or Run Wild is active.

    Even with pet's floored accuracy I could still see BST being a viable job if they could consistently land the -evasion from lizard or the Max HP Down/-Def Down from Slug.
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