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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You understand that when you are a lower level the NPC syncs down to you, and gains XP based on that level right?
    You understand you're the first person to mention Level Syncing? Instead of coming off like a douche you could have reworded that suggesting Level Syncing with a friend(s) who happen to have lower level jobs would be a great way to level your fellow as it would allow for maximum EXP gain while generally reducing the monster kill time. Assuming they changed the fellow to be usable during level sync.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You understand that when you are a lower level the NPC syncs down to you, and gains XP based on that level right?
    Unless recently changed, you are wrong. If the npc syncs down, she or he does not gain exp based on their now lower level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    Actually I thought they'd specifically said NPCs (Ours, and "mercenaries") were being implemented into reives.

    I'm pretty sure that's what Edyth is referring to as well.
    I believe this is the statement we are thinking of:

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Akihiko_Matsui View Post
    For adjustments to come after the above, we are currently looking into doing things such as implementing a system where NPCs join Colonization and Lair Reives, allowing adventuring fellows to be called in Adoulin areas as well as increasing their level cap, and hiring mercenary NPCs in order to help out solo and low-man play.
    Looking at both, the translation as well as the Japanese wording, I would guess that it refers to NPCs as seen in Campaign and Bastion for example. Not Adventuring Fellows, which will be possible to be called in Adoulin areas, but I would assume they are unable to participate in raves and/or Reives.

    That's just my guesstimate, of course!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    You understand you're the first person to mention Level Syncing? Instead of coming off like a douche you could have reworded that suggesting Level Syncing with a friend(s) who happen to have lower level jobs would be a great way to level your fellow as it would allow for maximum EXP gain while generally reducing the monster kill time. Assuming they changed the fellow to be usable during level sync.
    I'm pretty sure that Adventuring Fellows still don't like to Level Sync, meaning they will skedaddledly disband when one is activated. I believe Alhanelem is referring to an adventure with something like a level 60 job set as one's main job while the fellow is higher than that. As you probably know, they indeed do scale down.
    I was never really sure how they gain experience points in such a situation. I guess I always thought they get less, if any.

    That said, without adjustments, I wonder what it will be like to get them to level up even higher when their limits are further raised once more again. Oh well... there are them Promyvions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    You understand you're the first person to mention Level Syncing? Instead of coming off like a douche you could have reworded that suggesting Level Syncing with a friend(s) who happen to have lower level jobs would be a great way to level your fellow as it would allow for maximum EXP gain while generally reducing the monster kill time. Assuming they changed the fellow to be usable during level sync.
    You understand it wasn't my intention to be a douche, and it wasn't necessary to be one in return? (both that time and this time, it's intended as tongue-in-cheek)

    ....

    Anyway, I thought this was common knowledge. when you're level 5-10 killing enemies that give 2-300 EXP easily, your NPC still gets that much, even if they're level 90. It's generally easier than trying to do it in the mid to upper levels because Grounds of Valor is typically done on weak mobs that don't give much XP and they can't go to abyssea. When I'm leveling a lower job I always solo with the NPC because it's the best oppertunity to get him XP. This doesn't help if you already have all jobs 99, but it is an option for many.

    Unless recently changed, you are wrong. If the npc syncs down, she or he does not gain exp based on their now lower level.
    I'm not wrong. It has always been this way. my NPC levels up much faster when I'm leveling a new job than when I try using it to solo things closer to its/my level. The closer he/she is to 99, the more true this will be. If your NPC is far below you, they will be getting cap EXP on mobs you can easily kill; but once that's no longer possible, this is a good way to get XP for the NPC.
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    So then it's word against word. First to post actual data wins a cookie!
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    I have to side with Mirage. The EXP the Adventuring Fellow gains are solely based on his/her REAL level. The only way Al could see an increase in lvl is because those mobs he fights with lower lvl jobs are still EP to the fellows real lvl. I know this for a fact since I used to wonder why my NPC didn't lvl when i lvled multiple jobs from 10-37 back in the days while my fellow stayed around 52~53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You understand it wasn't my intention to be a douche, and it wasn't necessary to be one in return? (both that time and this time, it's intended as tongue-in-cheek)

    ....

    Anyway, I thought this was common knowledge. when you're level 5-10 killing enemies that give 2-300 EXP easily, your NPC still gets that much, even if they're level 90. It's generally easier than trying to do it in the mid to upper levels because Grounds of Valor is typically done on weak mobs that don't give much XP and they can't go to abyssea. When I'm leveling a lower job I always solo with the NPC because it's the best oppertunity to get him XP. This doesn't help if you already have all jobs 99, but it is an option for many.

    I'm not wrong. It has always been this way. my NPC levels up much faster when I'm leveling a new job than when I try using it to solo things closer to its/my level. The closer he/she is to 99, the more true this will be. If your NPC is far below you, they will be getting cap EXP on mobs you can easily kill; but once that's no longer possible, this is a good way to get XP for the NPC.
    I used to do this all the time (and I mean a LOT), and I have never seen my NPC level up, or even change from "I've just levelled up" to "I'm nearly halfway there" or whatever.

    As far as I'm aware, or have ever seen any proof of, your NPC gains exp based on their actual level vs mobs level, and if you are much lower than their level, they get nothing.
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    That's why I said that if they do now, it must have been a recent change. My NPC definitely didn't gain any levels when I used her to solo many years ago.
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    NPCs have never gained XP when they get synced down nor did they ever change it. I don't know where Alhanelem is getting this from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    I used to do this all the time (and I mean a LOT), and I have never seen my NPC level up, or even change from "I've just levelled up" to "I'm nearly halfway there" or whatever.

    As far as I'm aware, or have ever seen any proof of, your NPC gains exp based on their actual level vs mobs level, and if you are much lower than their level, they get nothing.
    My NPC indeed has leveled up while fighting low level monsters. They get EXP from it.
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