Elemental Magic Adjustments Continued

[RAIST]

Have to understand that helixes are a completely different animal though--thier main use is the DoT factor, which may run 15 rounds at 99 (possibly longer?). Though they receive bonuses from INT/MAB and get day/weather bonus/penalties like direct damage elemental spells....their main benefit is their DoT factor.

Let's take the given example of 150 damage with say Ionohelix. That's potentially upwards of 2250 damage (150 X 15) for just 26 MP. Compare that to the cost of a BLM's spells capable of such output. Even if it's on for a shorter duration, like say 9 rounds, that's still 1350 damage for just 26 MP--with very low enmity pull by comparison.

Thus, they are already VASTLY more efficient than a BLM's nukes (when the mob survives the full duration of the spell, that is)--and still will be after these adjustments.

Bear in mind also, Helixes are spells that are learned below level 50 (as in available with subjob)...not something that had to be meritted at 75 or otherwise learned around 70 or higher. Just further stresses the need to enhance direct damage elemental magic--the alternative could be for SE to focus on balancing things by nerfing Helixes. We don't want that, now do we?

[Demon6324236]

Bear in mind also, Helixes are spells that are learned below level 50 (as in available with subjob)...not something that had to be meritted at 75 or otherwise learned around 70 or higher. Just further stresses the need to enhance direct damage elemental magic--the alternative could be for SE to focus on balancing things by nerfing Helixes. We don't want that, now do we?

The duration cut is the balance for having them as a subjob.

[RAIST]

The duration cut is the balance for having them as a subjob.

Even so, it's still what...7-9 ticks as a level 49 cast?. Base damage around 25, modified by dINT and MAB, as well as day/weather bonuses. That's still a nice spot of potential damage from a 26 mp spell that you learned around level 28 or so.

And that's the point I was trying to make. A spell learned below level 40 that when used at 99 can out damage and be vastly more efficient than one that has to be meritted at 75 or otherwise learned around level 70 or higher--can even rival/exceed the output/efficiency of a spell learned at level 90+ for that matter.

[Daemon]

Seriously I do hope the devs reanalyze the way us mages have it in game. Its pretty ridiculous that we are heavily needed on most jobs as support to keep the non magic casting jobs alive and a good amount of our mp go toward that and the very few Nuking jobs that we do have are being given limitations and unfair adjustments. On the nuking side of things, Making us use even more mp to cast spells that are not even new..... Whats going on?

How old are Tier IV spells?

We are given new gears through adoulin/delve to improve our MAB+INT Etc, then adjustments from the devs are being made to improve our dmg makes me think that the dmg with the new gears was off and thats why these stats are being changed

where as....

DD gets new gears and their dmg are even more massive than before yet I dont see any adjustments being made so they can "Have more power but more downtime"

Blackmage is not a cheap class to play. Some of us, If not all, actually spend Millions of gil on 1 spell .... "Cough..... Meteor.... Cough......"

And by the way, this is not about Abyssea, where you have cruor buffs, atmas, and other options to give you overpowered stats and abilities...temp items to give you MP...

This is about playing outside zones where you depend on your real stats. Where you actually have to carry food, medicine, elixers, TP wings, any other viable resources to recover your mp.

SE really... You give us a cookie but take away our milk.