More Paladin-centered shields needed to close the gap with Aegis & Ochain

[Karah]

Holy... 24 hours and 70 posts... there is... no way in hell... I'm reading all that whining...

Look it's pretty simple; as a whole, we as a population, use pld for 1-2 things at any given time, as a temporary measure, until something better can be thought of.

We took plds to dynamis, then we learned it was a waste of a spot. We took plds to limbus, same thing happened. We took plds to salvage (i think? i can't honestly remember). We took plds to voidwatch.

It's all past tense. As soon as people understand that it's foolish to use a pld to hold 3-5 NMs in fracture and just start KILLING THEM for MORE plasm AND items, then pld is dead again.

If you're unable/unwilling to make aegis AND ochain, then suck it up, level a real job and wait it out.

And if you lack THEM BOTH you're not a real paladin, and you're not going to be doing the one thing worth needing a pld for right now, fracture naakuls.

Before you even mention it, lolodin. lollegion.

BTW I am 99 PLD -with- Ochain, and no Aegis, and I know better than to even say I have PLD leveled as I lack the Aegis.

[Numquam]

Holy... 24 hours and 70 posts... there is... no way in hell... I'm reading all that whining...

Look it's pretty simple; as a whole, we as a population, use pld for 1-2 things at any given time, as a temporary measure, until something better can be thought of.

We took plds to dynamis, then we learned it was a waste of a spot. We took plds to limbus, same thing happened. We took plds to salvage (i think? i can't honestly remember). We took plds to voidwatch.

It's all past tense. As soon as people understand that it's foolish to use a pld to hold 3-5 NMs in fracture and just start KILLING THEM for MORE plasm AND items, then pld is dead again.

If you're unable/unwilling to make aegis AND ochain, then suck it up, level a real job and wait it out.

And if you lack THEM BOTH you're not a real paladin, and you're not going to be doing the one thing worth needing a pld for right now, fracture naakuls.

Before you even mention it, lolodin. lollegion.

BTW I am 99 PLD -with- Ochain, and no Aegis, and I know better than to even say I have PLD leveled as I lack the Aegis.

You go, sistah!

[Hayward]

Holy... 24 hours and 70 posts... there is... no way in hell... I'm reading all that whining...

Look it's pretty simple; as a whole, we as a population, use pld for 1-2 things at any given time, as a temporary measure, until something better can be thought of.

We took plds to dynamis, then we learned it was a waste of a spot. We took plds to limbus, same thing happened. We took plds to salvage (i think? i can't honestly remember). We took plds to voidwatch.

It's all past tense. As soon as people understand that it's foolish to use a pld to hold 3-5 NMs in fracture and just start KILLING THEM for MORE plasm AND items, then pld is dead again.

If you're unable/unwilling to make aegis AND ochain, then suck it up, level a real job and wait it out.

And if you lack THEM BOTH you're not a real paladin, and you're not going to be doing the one thing worth needing a pld for right now, fracture naakuls.

Before you even mention it, lolodin. lollegion.

BTW I am 99 PLD -with- Ochain, and no Aegis, and I know better than to even say I have PLD leveled as I lack the Aegis.

It must really take a special kind of talent to type so much and say next to nothing. Even some of the more notorious posters on Allakhazam had something of substance in their otherwise inane posts.

[CrystalWeapon]

Holy... 24 hours and 70 posts... there is... no way in hell... I'm reading all that whining...

Look it's pretty simple; as a whole, we as a population, use pld for 1-2 things at any given time, as a temporary measure, until something better can be thought of.

We took plds to dynamis, then we learned it was a waste of a spot. We took plds to limbus, same thing happened. We took plds to salvage (i think? i can't honestly remember). We took plds to voidwatch.

It's all past tense. As soon as people understand that it's foolish to use a pld to hold 3-5 NMs in fracture and just start KILLING THEM for MORE plasm AND items, then pld is dead again.

If you're unable/unwilling to make aegis AND ochain, then suck it up, level a real job and wait it out.

And if you lack THEM BOTH you're not a real paladin, and you're not going to be doing the one thing worth needing a pld for right now, fracture naakuls.

Before you even mention it, lolodin. lollegion.

BTW I am 99 PLD -with- Ochain, and no Aegis, and I know better than to even say I have PLD leveled as I lack the Aegis.

Do you ever post w/o the intent to insult people and or wave your epeen around?

This issue doesn't concern me as I have the weapons to get into delve and NM runs, but I at least have the compassion to see the other side of things. Not every peice of gear in this game is as easy to get lowman as nakid brewing an Ironclad with an event weapon. >.>

[Karah]

It must really take a special kind of talent to type so much and say next to nothing. Even some of the more notorious posters on Allakhazam had something of substance in their otherwise inane posts.

Someone's butt-hurt. My post says anything and everything valid to this topic, to the point you could even close it, with an enough said statement. There is no possible valid argument you could conceivably have against anything I said.

Do you ever post w/o the intent to insult people and or wave your epeen around?
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I have less than zero tolerance for anyone gimping themselves. For any reason. You can play the RL card. I attend medical school full time. I have 2 part time jobs. I only play X hours a week, maybe 12? and more on weekends, obviously.

You can be lazy, I'm one of the laziest people on XI I can possibly think of, nothing wrong with that. But if you're not going to put forth the MINIMAL effort to better yourself, then stop complaining about it.

[Numquam]

People that can't help themselves should go play a console game.

[Mirage]

Yeah, like for example FFXI!

I have less than zero tolerance for anyone gimping themselves. For any reason. You can play the RL card. I attend medical school full time. I have 2 part time jobs. I only play X hours a week, maybe 12? and more on weekends, obviously.

I attend two medical schools and have three full time jobs. Way to be casual, Karah.

[Yinnyth]

It must really take a special kind of talent to type so much and say next to nothing. Even some of the more notorious posters on Allakhazam had something of substance in their otherwise inane posts.

Actually, Karah raised a topic which is new to this thread: the idea that PLD might not even be of use in Delve in a few months. It has indeed been a trend in other events because PLD keeps us safe so we can get away with more mistakes when we're less familiar with the content. But as we learn more, we find ways to get by without a pure tank and put extra damage in the PLD's slot to finish faster.

Now, I'm not sure that I agree with Karah's assessment of the situation, mind you. Some of those NMs are just complete bruisers. But hey, maybe we haven't found all of their gimmicks yet.

[Radd]

So what Karah is saying is that, as most other events, PLD will become essentially "useless" as time goes on... So logic would tell me that the shields should be even quicker or easier to get if that is the case?

In the future, people would have to suffer grinding these shields out, and might not even attend the events... so why bother keeping both of these shields really annoying to get in the mean time? It sounds like people just want other people to suffer or waste time just because they "did it too." Insanity.

[Karah]

So what Karah is saying is that, as most other events, PLD will become essentially "useless" as time goes on... So logic would tell me that the shields should be even quicker or easier to get if that is the case?

In the future, people would have to suffer grinding these shields out, and might not even attend the events... so why bother keeping both of these shields really annoying to get in the mean time? It sounds like people just want other people to suffer or waste time just because they "did it too." Insanity.

Honestly, how hard is it to make an Aegis? a Month? 2 months? 2 hours a day, i mean really, it's childsplay.

I will give it up that Ochain, is by and large possibly the most soul-crushing (lol) thing in the game right now... VNM color changes are obnoxious to the 15th degree. But, that's another (actually SEVERAL) other threads...