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    Quote Originally Posted by Himrik View Post
    You're aware that 2-handed and HtoH jobs can only use ONE delve weapon, too ?
    And they can't equip a second weapon to benefit all the bonuses it can offer
    Two handed jobs can only use one, but only need one, DW jobs rely on two weapons to do the job, if you have a Delve weapon in one hand that's great, but your other hand can not, they are R/EX and the chances of having boss drops are laughable right now, which means your sitting on Skirmish or RME weapons as your best so far as I know. That means you will be main handing one weapon with twice as much damage as your offhand weapon most likely, which is poor and lowers your damage. The point here being that two handed jobs only need a single weapon so that's fine for them but DW jobs need two, its a simple concept, and a drawback on DW jobs that hinders them once again.
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    Bst can DW delve axe and sword.
    Nin can DW delve katana and dagger (and sword)
    Blu can DW delve sword and club.
    Thf can DW delve dagger and sword

    Dnc is the only dw job screwed, right?
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    Last edited by Aezelas; 06-04-2013 at 07:29 AM. Reason: added thf, since it can hold the delve sword

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    Think thf also since they have a D rank in sword
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    Again, downfall of the 1 handed jobs, two handed jobs get to wield a single weapon from Delve which is based on their strongest skill, while a handed jobs would have to play mix and match to get it while lowering their offhand's abilities due to weaker skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Again, downfall of the 1 handed jobs, two handed jobs get to wield a single weapon from Delve which is based on their strongest skill, while a handed jobs would have to play mix and match to get it while lowering their offhand's abilities due to weaker skill.
    True, and i didn't mean that 1-handed jobs don't have issues.
    I only meant that with delve weapons base dmg, 1-handed are given a more than decent choice of offhand weapon, even with a C or D rank in skill.

    I got myself the dagger for my dnc, and it's far from useless for my nin too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aezelas View Post
    Bst can DW delve axe and sword.
    Nin can DW delve katana and dagger (and sword)
    Blu can DW delve sword and club.
    Thf can DW delve dagger and sword

    Dnc is the only dw job screwed, right?
    THF Dual Wielding the sword would be worse than dual wielding a Thief's knife. We would't be able to hit anything in SoA. Sword is 99 Skillpoints behind Dagger

    Every job that relies on Dual Wield got screwed. Because H2H and 2Hand weapons are giant leaps ahead in DPS from previous Best weapons and they can make 100% use of that DPS increase with their A rank weapon and Main WS.

    Every other Dual wield job has to use inferior weapons and gets a significantly lower dps increase from only being able to use one A ranked Delve weapon.
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    I just didn't want it to take away from the fact that when it comes to weapons, Two Handed jobs are getting the better side of the deal no matter how you look at it because having to rely on two separate weapons almost always comes back to bite you, be it in DMG differences, or skill differences, right now 1 handed jobs are hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aezelas View Post
    I only meant that with delve weapons base dmg, 1-handed are given a more than decent choice of offhand weapon, even with a C or D rank in skill.
    No they aren't. Nothing that is not a delve weapon right now is a "decent" offhand weapon.

    Using D ranked weapons for significant reductions in accuracy and attack..or in some cases inferior WS due to switching weapons around is not "decent"

    2 handers and H2H are making giant leaps in DPS with these weapons. The huge difference in performance relative to these jobs is the issue, not that Dual wield jobs can't equip any old weapon and hit things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Again, downfall of the 1 handed jobs, two handed jobs get to wield a single weapon from Delve which is based on their strongest skill, while a handed jobs would have to play mix and match to get it while lowering their offhand's abilities due to weaker skill.


    Ofcourse dual wielders can also Offhand the upgraded delve weapons and main hand the boss drops. (or REM once update) While 2handers will have wasted airlixirs/plasma once they get a boss drop or their respective REM is upgraded.
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    Last edited by Taint2; 06-04-2013 at 11:44 PM.
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    Arma up next!

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    Rather waste Plasm and lixers on a weapon I will outdate sometime than to have to offhand a weaker weapon in my optimum setup. Thing is we sit here talking about all of this and the RME changes will basically fix it all on its own I think, so either way it should be ok, but for now it sucks.
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