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    Player Byrth's Avatar
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    If it makes you feel better, the offhand for H2H will probably not get an attack boost either. They always seem to treat it separately.

    But yeah, remaining things that separate 1H DDs from 2H DDs are:
    1) The Delay Cap
    2) WS options - To a much lesser extent

    They're probably never going to fix the one that matters because it creates such a convenient two-tiered system. At the delay cap, 2H DDs generally crush 1H DDs. Before reaching the delay cap, 1H DDs are very competitive with / better than 2H DDs and are far more durable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebo View Post
    We are already sent to the back of the bus when starting delve because we can only use one delve weapon, and one weak, pre-delve weapon.
    You're aware that 2-handed and HtoH jobs can only use ONE delve weapon, too ?
    And they can't equip a second weapon to benefit all the bonuses it can offer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Himrik View Post
    You're aware that 2-handed and HtoH jobs can only use ONE delve weapon, too ?
    And they can't equip a second weapon to benefit all the bonuses it can offer
    ....Not sure if serious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Himrik View Post
    You're aware that 2-handed and HtoH jobs can only use ONE delve weapon, too ?
    And they can't equip a second weapon to benefit all the bonuses it can offer
    Two handed jobs can only use one, but only need one, DW jobs rely on two weapons to do the job, if you have a Delve weapon in one hand that's great, but your other hand can not, they are R/EX and the chances of having boss drops are laughable right now, which means your sitting on Skirmish or RME weapons as your best so far as I know. That means you will be main handing one weapon with twice as much damage as your offhand weapon most likely, which is poor and lowers your damage. The point here being that two handed jobs only need a single weapon so that's fine for them but DW jobs need two, its a simple concept, and a drawback on DW jobs that hinders them once again.
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    Bst can DW delve axe and sword.
    Nin can DW delve katana and dagger (and sword)
    Blu can DW delve sword and club.
    Thf can DW delve dagger and sword

    Dnc is the only dw job screwed, right?
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    Last edited by Aezelas; 06-04-2013 at 07:29 AM. Reason: added thf, since it can hold the delve sword

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aezelas View Post
    Bst can DW delve axe and sword.
    Nin can DW delve katana and dagger (and sword)
    Blu can DW delve sword and club.
    Thf can DW delve dagger and sword

    Dnc is the only dw job screwed, right?
    THF Dual Wielding the sword would be worse than dual wielding a Thief's knife. We would't be able to hit anything in SoA. Sword is 99 Skillpoints behind Dagger

    Every job that relies on Dual Wield got screwed. Because H2H and 2Hand weapons are giant leaps ahead in DPS from previous Best weapons and they can make 100% use of that DPS increase with their A rank weapon and Main WS.

    Every other Dual wield job has to use inferior weapons and gets a significantly lower dps increase from only being able to use one A ranked Delve weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebo View Post
    THF Dual Wielding the sword would be worse than dual wielding a Thief's knife.
    Darn, you mean THF can apply greater TH effect AND wield a very powerful weapon to DPS... and WS, which use only main weapon for damage calculation ?
    Or even wield a Delve weapon in one hand and an OAT in the other

    Screwed indeed
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    Think thf also since they have a D rank in sword
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    Again, downfall of the 1 handed jobs, two handed jobs get to wield a single weapon from Delve which is based on their strongest skill, while a handed jobs would have to play mix and match to get it while lowering their offhand's abilities due to weaker skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Again, downfall of the 1 handed jobs, two handed jobs get to wield a single weapon from Delve which is based on their strongest skill, while a handed jobs would have to play mix and match to get it while lowering their offhand's abilities due to weaker skill.
    True, and i didn't mean that 1-handed jobs don't have issues.
    I only meant that with delve weapons base dmg, 1-handed are given a more than decent choice of offhand weapon, even with a C or D rank in skill.

    I got myself the dagger for my dnc, and it's far from useless for my nin too.
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