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[Babekeke]

Ummm... RUN's 'paper bag physical defense'?

My RUN has -47% PDT (-34% if I'm using Bereaver). Use the right food and you can have well over 700 def BEFORE cocoon or defender.

The only reason people see RUN as having 'paper bag physical defense' is because they're gearing to DD.

[Alpheus]

Ummm... RUN's 'paper bag physical defense'?
My RUN has -47% PDT (-34% if I'm using Bereaver). Use the right food and you can have well over 700 def BEFORE cocoon or defender.
The only reason people see RUN as having 'paper bag physical defense' is because they're gearing to DD.

I'm not saying its unworkable but honestly it's biggest damage mitigating skills for the physical side of things is it's evasion and parrying if these actually were worth a damn I wouldn't mind its physical defense. Essentially the two skills i mentioned are meant to act as a equivalent to a PLD's shield ( a form of damage mitigation), except anything worth fighting will laugh at the evasion and parrying because they are so useless when fighting anything that is of much higher level than you.

So granted I understand as far as melee jobs are concerned its DEF isnt too bad but when it's supposed to be supplemented by things that don't work it just exacerbates the issue to the point that on the whole it leaves a lot to be desired.

[Glamdring]

Ummm... RUN's 'paper bag physical defense'?

My RUN has -47% PDT (-34% if I'm using Bereaver). Use the right food and you can have well over 700 def BEFORE cocoon or defender.

The only reason people see RUN as having 'paper bag physical defense' is because they're gearing to DD.

gearring to DD has a purpose. with very little to work with in the enmity department in todays Zerg-heavy environment the only thing we can do for hate is try to keep up on damage. It's going to be interesting to see where SE goes with our end-game JSE, if they add def likely our damage suffers and vice-versa. considering we are on the middle tier for armor-and to an extent weapon-I'm expecting a mix of the 2, leaving us lagging in both aspects, and probably hurting our enmity all around, an issue for an intended tank. Don't get me wrong, play the job well and we aren't as pathetic as some of the complaints would lead someone who has never played Rune to believe, but pld and nin are both ahead of us in tanking simply due to having hate tools to work with; yes, I know DD can take that hate and never let it go, it doesn't change that they are still ahead of us on grabbing it in the first place.

I just really wish SE would announce (as they are with geo) some of what they are planning so we could comment on it inteligently instead of having to guess or put out wish lists. I also wish they had done this sooner, first impressions are often the last impressions for many players, and since we were rolled out without merits, JSE and end-game weapons available that first impression is that we are weak in comparrison to the other jobs out there. Seriously, beast is just overcoming the XP thing that hasn't been a factor for like 8 years now, pup is just now starting to be written without the mandatory "lol" in front of it, and yes, I've heard "lol-run" already-that is NOT what I want out of one of my favorite jobs to play.