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    Player Volarione's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    You know why it's hard to do content now? Because there are so fewer players around and of those that are they have probably either done it or have no interest in it. Cross server finder isn't going to happen for various reasons.

    The game needs new players, the only way that's going to happen these days is for it to change the payment system it uses. F2P will bring in a lot more players and revitalise the game, nothing else is going to do it at this point, at best under the current system server merges might help but that's about it.
    You have your own topic where people called you an idiot stop dragging your stupidity into other peoples topics. Thank you.




    Honestly I don't have any problems doing old missions or quests because I made friends when I came back. Simple get some people and have fun. Most of the the old content can be soloed now anyway.
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    I really doubt cross server finder has potential though. It's a sizable undertaking, if even possible. For instance, wow's instances seem to be hosted on different servers than players are on. On two occasions the world I was on, Area 51, crashed while the instance I was in did not.

    Given that old instances have 1-3 copies, I'd more suspect that the instances are on the server.

    And then of course, Naakual happen in the game world itself and I really imagine there would be troubles with people coming cross server for that, not to mention besieged level lag and frequent dc's, system-lockups.

    Another round of server merges would be a better option. Not all servers need it, but some certainly do.

    Also, you think the community has degraded now. Cross server instances in many games cause so many people to feel such a lack of accountability for their conduct that they'd do things they'd never do when repercussions are likely.

    I was playing WoW when they brought in Dungeon finder, and it sounded like an awesome idea. They were probably the first big mmo to do it, and people were excited, and it was fun for about a week and then people started causing other people sh*t. Ninja'ing things. Making a huge pull and then leaving group (thus jumping from the instance). Vote-kicking people so that their friends got armor etc etc.

    What little integrity remains in this community would die.
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    Last edited by OmnysValefor; 05-28-2013 at 03:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    I was playing WoW when they brought in Dungeon finder, and it sounded like an awesome idea. They were probably the first big mmo to do it, and people were excited, and it was fun for about a week and then people started causing other people sh*t. Ninja'ing things. Making a huge pull and then leaving group (thus jumping from the instance). Vote-kicking people so that their friends got armor etc etc.
    This is where "community policing" and responsible leadership come into play. You react to the situations as called for during dungeon runs and counteract when you can. I lotted against loot ninjas, won, then had the people that could actually use the gear /random for that gear. You deal with people leaving the instance by having them replaced. Not to mention anyone who's been around enough knows to click no on random vote-to-kick, especially if the run has been relatively smooth.

    People will be dicks regardless of whether Dungeon Finder existed or not. I have no issue playing with strangers while also understanding what may possibly happen in such PuGs, and as such have benefitted greatly from DF.

    What little integrity remains in this community would die.
    Seeing that this playerbase treats its players worse than anything I've ever seen in MMOs that are not Lineage II (yes, that includes WoW and it's "bad" community), I don't think there's much integrity to speak of...

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    This all being said, I don't think cross-realm partying would actually work. XI's server architecture would not be able to handle it as is, and would need a huge revampt to make it even possible.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line.

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    Player OmnysValefor's Avatar
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    If you played before WoW before and immediately after dungeon finder, you could see a sharp increase in people doing mean things just because they could.

    There are "nice" people in all games.
    There are "mean" people in all games.
    There are people that are only nice because they care about their reputation.

    The degradation of XI's community paralleling the incline of low-man content is proof enough of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vizzer View Post
    SE has already designed a system for this, it's all in XIV. Years ago Everquest used online adventures as sort of a testing ground for game mechanics. Some of the ideas were implemented into the PC game, and others that didn't fair so well were not. Maybe SE will look at how a content finder and all that works in XIV and bring a form of it back to this game.
    I have to disagree on any type of content finder. I have experienced it in other games and it really dosent work out like some think. With content finder you are automaticly put in a Q, at that point you are randomly thrown with A: a group that knows whats going on and you actually succeed at what you are doing or B: you get into a group that dosent know jack, dosent talk and you end up failing. Content finder dosent do anything but waste players time and effort.
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