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    I agree with the above. If you were lucky enough to get in on it early then you could do Delve with your now gimp 'weekend weapon'. If not then you've gotta slink in on a job is required more for their utility than what they're wearing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bstmode View Post
    I agree with the above. If you were lucky enough to get in on it early then you could do Delve with your now gimp 'weekend weapon'. If not then you've gotta slink in on a job is required more for their utility than what they're wearing.
    Best one to "sink in" with is called Leader, best part about that job is it takes a bit of research as well as the ability to make sure people follow through with instructions and that's all it takes to make it pimp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Best one to "sink in" with is called Leader, best part about that job is it takes a bit of research as well as the ability to make sure people follow through with instructions and that's all it takes to make it pimp.
    I'll save you the trip to Merriam-Webster...

    Slink - 1: to go or move stealthily or furtively (as in fear or shame)

    Basically you sneak into a group on a 'safe' job knowing that if you wanted to go on a job you enjoy, you'd probably be denied because you aren't as equipped as they feel you should be. Sure you can make your own group, but the chances of people sticking around after finding out that you aren't already Delve equipped are about the same as you getting into a premade under the same circumstances.

    Not saying that it's impossible, but it's much less likely and enough of an annoyance to turn people off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bstmode View Post
    I'll save you the trip to Merriam-Webster...

    Slink - 1: to go or move stealthily or furtively (as in fear or shame)

    Basically you sneak into a group on a 'safe' job knowing that if you wanted to go on a job you enjoy, you'd probably be denied because you aren't as equipped as they feel you should be. Sure you can make your own group, but the chances of people sticking around after finding out that you aren't already Delve equipped are about the same as you getting into a premade under the same circumstances.

    Not saying that it's impossible, but it's much less likely and enough of an annoyance to turn people off.
    Sorry when I used "sink in" it was meant to be a play on your use of "slink in", essentially hoping it will sink in people's head that if they actually took up the leader role they'd get away with so much when talking about gear/job expectations instead of trying to sneak in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Sorry when I used "sink in" it was meant to be a play on your use of "slink in", essentially hoping it will sink in people's head that if they actually took up the leader role they'd get away with so much when talking about gear/job expectations instead of trying to sneak in.
    Way to slink past the point. When people have difficulty even being invited to participate in an event unless already geared by that event, something is wrong. It's like being asked to show ID when you're going to obtain a driver's license.

    Let the irony "sink in"...

    We're talking about weapons that are obtained through magian trials which are based completely on progression. You start at point A and progress through other points until you reach your destination. No skipping over or slinking through content. You start and progress until you're done.

    In Delve on the other hand, you're expected to already be at your destination before you are eligible to make the trip. Now I understand that this barrier is created by the community, but SE could easily address the issue. Creating your own group doesn't remove the expectation from players that you should be overgeared for the content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bstmode View Post
    Creating your own group doesn't remove the expectation from players that you should be overgeared for the content.
    Do you honestly think someone who's elitist about gear that still needs KIs/plasm and hasn't been brought into a group at this point can still be a chooser over a beggar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Do you honestly think someone who's elitist about gear that still needs KIs/plasm and hasn't been brought into a group at this point can still be a chooser over a beggar?
    No, I believe all the elitists were granted what they needed before they even set foot in Delve... /facepalm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagen View Post
    Do you honestly think someone who's elitist about gear that still needs KIs/plasm and hasn't been brought into a group at this point can still be a chooser over a beggar?
    I think this is beyond the point. If I went into a Delve NM ally and realised the leader was on SAM and using level 90 Empy for example, I'd probably only give him 5 mins to finish the alliance, and I'd certainly be keeping an eye out for another ally forming.

    This is not because I'm 'elitist', far from it, but the NMs are difficult, pure and simple. It's a waste of everyone's time to go with a group that can't beat the NM.

    @Duelle: Many things in SoA can be done without even having 99 r/m/e. Reives for certain, and plasm farming. Wildskeeper Reives and Skirmish, I'm not too sure about as I haven't bothered with them myself yet. Delve NMs however are tiered above r/m/e 99.

    Edit: also, I think Duelle might have it right when he said 'ease up on the trials'. When they first announced 1500 HMP, many of us thought that it would eventually be reduced. Now seems like the ideal time, especially since they will not be increasing the power of non-99 r/m/e, no matter what anyone would like.
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