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    Quote Originally Posted by xiozen View Post
    NO, STOP BEING LAZY... do the TRIALS that have been SETUP that A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE A 99 DID and are probably CONTINUING TO DO!!!!
    I lol'd at the bolded. Not sure where your info is from, but there are not 'a lot of people that have a 99'. Would have to wait and check the most current Vana'diel census, but I'm almost certain that the number of people who have a 99 empyrean complete is at most a few percent of the population. Which brings me to my point...

    Many people stopped building these weapons past 85/90 because they had still achieved an increased gain in their character's ability compared to alternatives. Players would start trials knowing that even if they stopped at 85/90, they would still achieve significant gains. That was kind of the point of magian trials and it's a lot how things work in real life. You want something, you work to get it. You want something nicer, you work a little harder.

    IRL logic:
    I work my 40 hrs a week and I can afford to make payments on my Camry. I'm happy with my current situation because it allows me to still have some free time to do things I like to do. I could totally burn myself out and work 12 hrs everyday to afford a Benz, but the fact that I am comfortable where I am does NOT make me lazy. Earn what you own.

    That being said, I feel that the trials are fair. I have no beef with plates taking a larger investment for only a slight gain in comparison to previous trials. However, I don't see the harm in scaling up all of the weapons so that the original spirit and intent of magian trials, the idea of earning a weapon based on your on personal level of commitment, is still respected.
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    I admit, I got emotional in my response, so I concur that my use of "a lot of people" is somewhat over the top and perhaps unrealistic; but my point was made. As far as your quote:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bstmode View Post
    However, I don't see the harm in scaling up all of the weapons so that the original spirit and intent of magian trials, the idea of earning a weapon based on your on personal level of commitment, is still respected.
    Since we both probably do not work for the development team, we won't understand their logic for not having already scaled certain weapons in the game prior to or even after release of the SoA content... perhaps this requires addressing... I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xiozen View Post
    I admit, I got emotional in my response, so I concur that my use of "a lot of people" is somewhat over the top and perhaps unrealistic; but my point was made.
    To put it in perspective for you... Based on the 11th vana'diel census:

    There were a total of just over 65k empyrean weapons across all servers that were level 85 or higher(excluding instrument and shield). Out of those 65,000+ empyreans, a mere 550 of them were unlocked to level 99. Less than 1 out of every 100 people who unlocked an empyrean weaponskill bothered to take their weapon to what you called 'completion' at level 99.

    You basically said that more than 99% of the population of FFXI is lazy because they couldn't be bothered to 'complete' their weapons. Now you're saying that perhaps that is unrealistic?

    Perhaps you are the winner of the "Understatement of the Century" award...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bstmode View Post
    To put it in perspective for you... Based on the 11th vana'diel census:

    There were a total of just over 65k empyrean weapons across all servers that were level 85 or higher(excluding instrument and shield). Out of those 65,000+ empyreans, a mere 550 of them were unlocked to level 99. Less than 1 out of every 100 people who unlocked an empyrean weaponskill bothered to take their weapon to what you called 'completion' at level 99.

    You basically said that more than 99% of the population of FFXI is lazy because they couldn't be bothered to 'complete' their weapons. Now you're saying that perhaps that is unrealistic?

    Perhaps you are the winner of the "Understatement of the Century" award...
    My Almace and Armageddon are at 85, my Apocalypse is at 95 because I'm lazy. I have the means to obtain the items required to make them 99. Might take a while for the Emps but I can do it. Heck the 5 Umbral Marrows to 99 my Apocalypse cost 50-75 million, or in context of an event I'm currently spamming on a semi regular basis that's 167~250 Airlixir +1s being sold or 417,500-625,000 or 83-125 fracture runs averaging 5k. That doesn't even account for farming Volatile Matamata which usually ends up giving me 3 +1s and 1,500 more plasm. By not rigorously focusing on selling Airlixir +1s to fund my Apocalypse 95 to 99 I'm being lazy, at least I'm willing to admit it.
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