Need Delve weapons to beat delve NMs...

[Grondell]

So I have been running very selective pugs on asura... have yet to beat the delve NMs i need. doing ERMD (mostly ERM because the delve wearers no longer need the NMS....) and I CANNOT down any of the mobs... its not out of fail, we are timing out. Just can't put out enough damage. SE needs to fix this shit show or I will be walking away from this game... SMGDH

[Grondell]

I will try that then. ty

[Elexia]

What I find funny about the "kick under performing players" is almost everyone has issues when your accuracy gets floored during "mob buff time" which people largely love to ignore.

[OmnysValefor]

Ah yes, all dd are created equal and have equal zerg potential.

The wave of dnc and blu's destroying delve NMs just boggles the mind.

Well, it would if I saw any.

2hr's also, as they've had for a long time, have much better acc from dex, and right now, every bit of acc matters.

A relic thf will never dd like a relic drk, and it possibly never should, but why is the guy who mained thf less entitled to the kill right now? He may have put equal effort into his job, or more, than the drk, but the drk will outperform him.

And of course, dw'er need to upgrade 2 weapons.

Shy of blm burning Kurma, I can't say I've seen a blm in Delve or Fracture. They're less entitled.

Btw, I main pld, enjoy maining pld, and get more invites than I want, really, but I can recognize poor design when I see it.

The 20 minute limit was a /panic bandaid that excluded a lot of decent players from content they're willing to strive for, but the thf's and bsts won't be getting invites any time soon.

Unless they're willing to pay for it.

[Belmonts]

Probably if you want all "legit" as you say so, you shouldn't enforce ppl to use 3rd party tools such as parse stuff, that is btw, not legit at all, at least on SE rules agreement. Sorry but windower tool even if it can be appealing and useful is cheating.

And yeah ppl can write a bible about how SE should of implement those features but they haven't (for being lazy, or they don't care at all), ergo, is not legit.

Amazed that a forum administrator hasn't locked those suggestions.

But doesn't mean that players shouldn't try their best to get the gear/wins/weapons required to DD properly. That is hard because ppl don't want to redo wins for others ? Yes is hard. So maybe they should step up and make their own shouts to gather other folks that need those wins as well. Kinda reminds me VW win clears.

[hiko]

So I have been running very selective pugs on asura... have yet to beat the delve NMs i need. doing ERMD (mostly ERM because the delve wearers no longer need the NMS....) and I CANNOT down any of the mobs... its not out of fail, we are timing out. Just can't put out enough damage. SE needs to fix this shit show or I will be walking away from this game... SMGDH

lot of people have done it in <20min without delve weapon.
If you don't have REM95+ go get a skirmish weapon.
if you still cant beat em the issue is not your weapon.

T1-3 can be farmed inside (and are easier since no 20min depop)
once you have defeat one nm per area you have acces to all the armor with plasm.
plasm can be farmed on fodder mobs inside, you can even solo farm outside(shard), it's slow but can be done

[OmnysValefor]

You're missing the point. It's a catch 22. You need to be a "legit DD" to win, but you have to win to become a 'legit DD." The only thing preventing a total-screwover is support classes (WHM, BRD, SCH, COR, SMN) can get away without haivng delve stuff because they aren't as stat dependent.

Thing is, basically anybody with delve gear will stomp all over anyone without it. Even with the less popular DD jobs- the new gear is such a radical transformation that you would easily take one of those jobs with the gear over the most popular job without it.

I've seen reports of well geared, delve-weapon, ninjas outperforming relic drks and their ilk in non-delve content, because who would bring a ninja to delve.

[Wyrmnus]

The elitist air in here. ITS SUFFOCATING ME, GOD DAMNIT! GAHHHH!

[Satonaka]

The elitist air in here. ITS SUFFOCATING ME, GOD DAMNIT! GAHHHH!

Lol, it's ALWAYS been here, only thing that's changed is Adoulin helped it come back out since AFK-ssea was super incredible at hiding it :P

[Vladislav]

lot of people have done it in <20min without delve weapon.
If you don't have REM95+ go get a skirmish weapon.
if you still cant beat em the issue is not your weapon.

T1-3 can be farmed inside (and are easier since no 20min depop)
once you have defeat one nm per area you have acces to all the armor with plasm.
plasm can be farmed on fodder mobs inside, you can even solo farm outside(shard), it's slow but can be done

Lol do you even know that about 40~50% of ppl's on each server did not done even VW , and there is not their fault , there not because they are bad players , there not because they lazy players/nobs/etc , there is irl life outside of fkn KB you know . I spended pretty much time to do it also i know . Now what we have here - all right new delve , once again need spend time that you sometimes not even have to get wins/gears that need to be pretty tough to even get inv. in party (*_*) .I know ppl's can say -> lol if u have no pretty much time to FFXI wtf u playin' it bro , answer is short ---> i 20 year play FF series so why shouldnt i !