Mog Sachel for Software Token? how annoying

[Alhanelem]

The reasoning floating about that phones have a cost to them, I will probably never understand.

Like I said- it's not so much the phone but rather the software token itself. Outside of the development cost, they have an infinite supply of software tokens, and it costs them basically nothing to give you one. physical tokens have to be in stock (and this has been an issue before) and have to be physically shipped to a physical location- making them much more expensive to deploy. It's not just you that saves money, its SE- Most likely the reason they did it in the first place, given their financial condition.

[Umichi]

I switched to the software token from a hardware token for convenience sake. I don't like keeping track of the tiny little keyfob.

this is also a use for the software token!

[Losie]

Label me slightly annoyed, I understand this was a bonus item but we still have to pay for that hardware token, I don't think it very fair to make it available to those that don't pay for the security token if you're not going to give those of us who do something else

Waaah.

Seriously? :|You did not BUY the mog satchel. You bought the security token, a piece of hardware, with an incentive of receiving the satchel. Geeze, it was probably years ago anyways, like it's even that big of a deal. Do people really have this much of a grump just because someone gets something they once got for less/easier? It's the same mindset as new items in games.. Waah waah someone got something without spending as much time as I did five years ago when the game was totally different, I want better stuff than everyone else but I don't want to keep earning it!

There is absolutely no merit to your complaint, I'm afraid.

[Rosalie]

Waaah.

Seriously? :|You did not BUY the mog satchel. You bought the security token, a piece of hardware, with an incentive of receiving the satchel. Geeze, it was probably years ago anyways, like it's even that big of a deal. Do people really have this much of a grump just because someone gets something they once got for less/easier? It's the same mindset as new items in games.. Waah waah someone got something without spending as much time as I did five years ago when the game was totally different, I want better stuff than everyone else but I don't want to keep earning it!

There is absolutely no merit to your complaint, I'm afraid.

I have to agree totally with this. What SE's goal in offering the satchel to token users (hardware OR software) is not the money spent on the token, but to promote user security and reduce the manhours that need to be used to recover accounts that had been hacked.

[Alhanelem]

This is exactly like a company dropping the price on something after you buy it. Generally, it's tough luck, carveat emptor, buyer beware. People who buy something before the price goes down aren't generally entitled to a refund or discount.

[Rosalie]

Like I said- it's not so much the phone but rather the software token itself. Outside of the development cost, they have an infinite supply of software tokens, and it costs them basically nothing to give you one. physical tokens have to be in stock (and this has been an issue before) and have to be physically shipped to a physical location- making them much more expensive to deploy. It's not just you that saves money, its SE- Most likely the reason they did it in the first place, given their financial condition.

Actually, outside of integrating the token into the software (i.e. development costs), e-merchandising, and giving the casing design to the outsourcing company, the tokens' manufacturing are actually handled not by SE, but by Vasco.

[Alhanelem]

Actually, outside of integrating the token into the software (i.e. development costs), e-merchandising, and giving the casing design to the outsourcing company, the tokens' manufacturing are actually handled not by SE, but by Vasco.

That's an irrelevant fact to point out. It costs SE money to buy and distribute the tokens, whether they own the factory that makes them or not. Your observation changes nothing.

[wildsprite]

Waaah.

Seriously? :|You did not BUY the mog satchel. You bought the security token, a piece of hardware, with an incentive of receiving the satchel. Geeze, it was probably years ago anyways, like it's even that big of a deal. Do people really have this much of a grump just because someone gets something they once got for less/easier? It's the same mindset as new items in games.. Waah waah someone got something without spending as much time as I did five years ago when the game was totally different, I want better stuff than everyone else but I don't want to keep earning it!

There is absolutely no merit to your complaint, I'm afraid.

seriously? do you feel better about yourself making comments like this? it doesn't matter if you are right or not how you make the comment makes you look like a jerk

[Alhanelem]

seriously? do you feel better about yourself making comments like this? it doesn't matter if you are right or not how you make the comment makes you look like a jerk

It may have been a jerky way to say it, but he's right.

Regardless of how you look at it, the price you paid was tied to the token not the satchel, regardless of the reason why you paid the price.

[Dragoy]

Come on guys, it was 10

For some, it was more like 12.98 USD. >:D×

Like I said- it's not so much the phone but rather the software token itself. Outside of the development cost, they have an infinite supply of software tokens, and it costs them basically nothing to give you one. physical tokens have to be in stock (and this has been an issue before) and have to be physically shipped to a physical location- making them much more expensive to deploy. It's not just you that saves money, its SE- Most likely the reason they did it in the first place, given their financial condition.

Yes. My comment had nothing to do with that. It was about some users suggesting phones having a cost in them having something to do with anything. ^^