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  1. #21
    Player Jackstin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildsprite View Post
    the idea behind the software token was to give extra security to people who already had the smart phone. it isn't like you are going to go out and buy a smart phone just for that, therefore that argument is not a valid one.

    if they made you pay for the software token it would be different but they don't. therefore the only bonus that it should have is the extra security.
    Again, you are paying for the security token, not the satchel. The satchel was there to encourage people to use the security device. If you were paying for the satchel that would be a micro-transaction. This game isn't F2P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    keyloggers don't care how complex your password and username are, nor do people whom you may have leaked your info to. Your token can protect you in many cases where your username and password, no matter how smart or stupid they are, can't.
    Yeah, if you fresh install the game, you have to retype your USER ID into pol, or I guess, if you play as a guest, though I've never tried.

    Besides that, your user id is in the game, key loggers have nothing to log. Phishing sites, and gullible people are the largest part of hackings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    Yeah, if you fresh install the game, you have to retype your USER ID into pol, or I guess, if you play as a guest, though I've never tried.

    Besides that, your user id is in the game, key loggers have nothing to log. Phishing sites, and gullible people are the largest part of hackings.
    Don't be daft. If they can log what keys you're typing, they can get screen captures with your ID.
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    They can, but they'd have to take pretty steady screenshots to know when to screenshot the second stage that brings up your user details. The main page of pol, now, shows your SE ID.

    daft, lol.
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  5. #25
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    I bought the hardware token for the inventory space alone. This thread is stupid. Come on guys, it was 10 fucking dollars, and it was several years ago. Get over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmnysValefor View Post
    They can, but they'd have to take pretty steady screenshots to know when to screenshot the second stage that brings up your user details. The main page of pol, now, shows your SE ID.

    daft, lol.
    Keyloggers can log more then just what keys you type. They can get any network traffic that gos on within the computer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miradel View Post
    I'd like to get access to the mog satchel without having to use the security token/app. I don't care if I have to pay for it, I'd gladly pay for more storage, but don't really want the hassle of inputting the security code every time I log in ><

    you have a choice of allowing one time log-ins when you sucessfully complete a password check, so you don't have to bother with it over and over again
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildsprite View Post
    the idea behind the software token was to give extra security to people who already had the smart phone. it isn't like you are going to go out and buy a smart phone just for that, therefore that argument is not a valid one.

    if they made you pay for the software token it would be different but they don't. therefore the only bonus that it should have is the extra security.
    yeah because most people don't own smartphones these days..... a cheap smartphone costs around 30-50 bucks I have one that runs on android but i can't download apps damn you cricket with your economically awesome phones!

    again your missing the fact that in order to even have access to the software itself you have to own a smartphone first, the cost of the phone is your fee for using the software version of their product for free.

    and i'm sure the idea behind the software token was to add a broader range of players who probably don't want to bother paying 10 bucks for a physical object, and probably has less security (typically speaking) since they didnt invest in the 10 dollar item because hey guess what they have a smart phone.... If you pay 10 bucks for the physical product you are practically garunteed (within human bounds of perfection) security protection, since you yourself are the warden and something like data being wiped from your phone or your phone pooping on you are far less likely to endanger a standalone product. plus it looks fancy and you can attach other ffxi baubles to it so people can identify you while you walk around in RL!
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    I switched to the software token from a hardware token for convenience sake. I don't like keeping track of the tiny little keyfob.
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    People who didn't pay for the token essentially got the same thing when the Mog Sack came around. I'm sure you didn't complain about that. You probably gleefully got yourself a mog sack.

    It was years ago. Get over it. And as people said, Square wanted people to use the token for security as lots of accounts were getting hacked. Hence the bonus for using the software token now as well, to get people to use it. If that ten dollars means that much to you, perhaps you should be spending your money more wisely than using it on this game.
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