Mog Sachel for Software Token? how annoying

[wildsprite]

Label me slightly annoyed, I understand this was a bonus item but we still have to pay for that hardware token, I don't think it very fair to make it available to those that don't pay for the security token if you're not going to give those of us who do something else

[NA]Mog Satchel now Available with the Software Token

As of May 13, 2013, players using the Square Enix Software Token (Software Token) will also receive the Mog Satchel.

Registering a Software Token to your Square Enix account will allow both existing and newly created characters on that account to receive the Mog Satchel. Players who already have a Software Token registered will receive the Mog Satchel immediately.

However, please note that an account will not be eligible to receive the Mog Satchel if a Software Token was initially registered to it but is currently removed. In such a case, please register another Software Token to receive the Mog Satchel. In addition, characters who have already received the Mog Satchel on a Square Enix account that has a Square Enix Security Token (Security Token) registered to it will be able to continue using the item even after the Software Token is removed.

*The specs for the Mog Satchel are the same for the Security Token and Software Token. Removing the Security Token and registering a Software Token in its place will not enable the use of multiple Mog Satchels and the number of storable items will not increase either.

[Umichi]

Seems fair enough to me. it's a bonus item attached to the item your getting just like the tidal talisman or many other items that included in-game items. Some don't have the luxury of owning a 40-50 dollar piece of equipment around, did that ever cross your mind? you have to purchase the phone itself to actually use the software token i think the cost itself outweighs the fact that you get a free 80 inv space which was given for free when they released the hardware tokens.

[Elexia]

It's in response to all the people who said:

"I shouldn't have to pay for a layer of security I don't need for more inventory space, SE should be giving it to me, a paying customer."

[Umichi]

It's in response to all the people who said:

"I shouldn't have to pay for a layer of security I don't need for more inventory space, SE should be giving it to me, a paying customer."

ahhh i see..... my comment is still valid though. you paid for your phone why shouldn't the token be free? after all the token is what we are focusing in on which is the real value of aquiring such an item. most other MMO's have incentives for securing your account, SE makes you pay either with their own product or yours because your getting a very specialized piece of software/hardware.

[wildsprite]

ahhh i see..... my comment is still valid though. you paid for your phone why shouldn't the token be free? .

by this argument why aren't all the pay games for your smart phone free? after all you paid for your phone. not a very good argument

[Umichi]

you too also paid for the piece of hardware that gave you the ability to never worry about your account ever again, i'm still failing to see why you should be angry? how long ago did you buy your security token? how many moons has it been since then that your token has accumulated more value than the price you paid into it?

[Demon6324236]

you too also paid for the piece of hardware that gave you the ability to never worry about your account ever again, i'm still failing to see why you should be angry? how long ago did you buy your security token? how many moons has it been since then that your token has accumulated more value than the price you paid into it?

I got no use out of my token past the Satchel because I did not want it, I removed it via phone shortly after getting it put on my account and logging into each of my characters.

[Lyandra]

the idea behind the software token was to give extra security to people who already had the smart phone. it isn't like you are going to go out and buy a smart phone just for that, therefore that argument is not a valid one. if they made you pay for the software token it would be different but they don't. therefore the only bonus that it should have is the extra security.

The idea behind the token was better security and less downtime S-E had to spend on retrieving stolen accounts; the Mog Satchel was pretty much to entice people to spend $10 for basically a key fob to gain an extra +50-80 extra storage spaces (it's mainly why I bought mine). Those who opted to get their SE tokens early on benefitted from extra account security and up to 80 bonus slots of storage, while those who refused to buy one had to go without it. Its like those who waited until now to play FF:XI; they can get the entire 10+ years of the game for just $40, a fraction of what a lot of others have spent over the years. But those that bought the stuff early on got to enjoy the benefits of said items right away.

by this argument why aren't all the pay games for your smart phone free? after all you paid for your phone. not a very good argument.

Because most smartphone games that are free either suck or are part of a gimmick for "freemium" games that entice you to pay money at some point. It costs money to develop games for phones, since its usually a 3rd-party group of people developing software for a device they didn't create (and usually are charged licensing fees). I'm sure if Square-Enix developed and sold smart phones, the Software Token would be given away free as a tie-in bonus for FF:XI. So yea, I think it's a good argument.

And really, if you're complaining about $10 you spent being "wasted" in favor of new people getting it free...

[wildsprite]

Because most smartphone games that are free either suck or are part of a gimmick for "freemium" games that entice you to pay money at some point. It costs money to develop games for phones, since its usually a 3rd-party group of people developing software for a device they didn't create (and usually are charged licensing fees). I'm sure if Square-Enix developed and sold smart phones, the Software Token would be given away free as a tie-in bonus for FF:XI. So yea, I think it's a good argument.

it cost them money to dev that software token even if they hired someone else to do it so no it isn't a good argument

[Lyandra]

it cost them money to dev that software token even if they hired someone else to do it so no it isn't a good argument

Probably the reason they switched to the software token was to cut down on costs of having to make and store physical devices instead of software they can distribute at no cost; maybe that's why they offer it free, I don't know. But I'm beginning to see nothing anyone posts here is going to change your mind or opinion. If you feel you've been cheated by S-E's business decision, that's your decision. As for me, I've enjoyed the $10 I spent for account security and personal luxury the token/satchel has provided. Perhaps if more people use the free Software Token, S-E can finally focus their finances to steer FF:XI to becoming a stronger and better MMO.