PS2 limitation new Zone solution.

[Ilax]

Exactly what i was saying with new zone for none-PS2 user, and i find this fair enough since 92% player base are not on PS2/PS3. I still think is less brutal then totally tell them that SE don't support them at all.

Of course that will cost SE $$$ for development, but they don't have to redo a complete new game with 100 new zone, just 2~3 new zone as beta-release would be already a net progress. And if is not perfect day 1 (as it was the case of 14) who care? We still have our old zone without bug available to play. In the end i am sure that would increase player base of FFXI which is sadly maybe not anymore they prio with 14

[Randwolf]

Exactly what i was saying with new zone for none-PS2 user, and i find this fair enough since 92% player base are not on PS2/PS3. I still think is less brutal then totally tell them that SE don't support them at all.

Of course that will cost SE $$$ for development, but they don't have to redo a complete new game with 100 new zone, just 2~3 new zone as beta-release would be already a net progress. And if is not perfect day 1 (as it was the case of 14) who care? We still have our old zone without bug available to play. In the end i am sure that would increase player base of FFXI which is sadly maybe not anymore they prio with 14

Kind of ridiculous to create new zones for non-PS2 when the basics are still gimped. You suddenly have 90 spaces in your sack when you enter the new zone? When you exit, where do those extra 10 items go? And, that's just one issue.

[Ilax]

Kind of ridiculous to create new zones for non-PS2 when the basics are still gimped. You suddenly have 90 spaces in your sack when you enter the new zone? When you exit, where do those extra 10 items go? And, that's just one issue.

Who say they have to start with this? Just an environment with better graphic, new battle system, (who know, you can jump in the new zone!, There new crazy emote) You can have LS with more then 64 player, The zone is impossible HUGE with zillion monster without facing a BLACK OUT screen saying: Loading. New PVP system that allow you to change gear. Who the hell know what they can put in these zone that would obviously not affect when you zone back... As i say you can get new gear with same stats, they just look almost same when you zone in old content (just the color is different) but in new zone they look crazy.

Also note that buy time for SE/DEV, they can work on a new world with free testing (kinda) i mean if people don't like they still have access to old content and will still pay they fee/month, and eventually PS2 will die and SE will have more option like increase SAC space and so on.

[Randwolf]

Who say they have to start with this? Just an environment with better graphic, new battle system, (who know, you can jump in the new zone!, There new crazy emote) You can have LS with more then 64 player, The zone is impossible HUGE with zillion monster without facing a BLACK OUT screen saying: Loading. New PVP system that allow you to change gear. Who the hell know what they can put in these zone that would obviously not affect when you zone back... As i say you can get new gear with same stats, they just look almost same when you zone in old content (just the color is different) but in new zone they look crazy.

Also note that buy time for SE/DEV, they can work on a new world with free testing (kinda) i mean if people don't like they still have access to old content and will still pay they fee/month, and eventually PS2 will die and SE will have more option like increase SAC space and so on.

I just see this as adding an extra layer of complexity to the programming because now everything that works in the new zone would have to be figured into how it behaves outside the zone. Just cut PS2 if you are going to cut it so you don't create a ton more issues every time something new is added. Or, keep supporting PS2 and figure it into all future content.

[Ilax]

I just see this as adding an extra layer of complexity to the programming because now everything that works in the new zone would have to be figured into how it behaves outside the zone. Just cut PS2 if you are going to cut it so you don't create a ton more issues every time something new is added. Or, keep supporting PS2 and figure it into all future content.

That add nothing complex to coding >< I bet you anything DEV spend 90% of they time to figure how they going to fit next expansion on PS2. Make new engine take time of course, but no matter what they have to do it eventually, better start now then later... Or wait, do you think FFXI will die with PS2?, in that case FFXI is already dead and there really no point to any new player to start playing it, then only FF14 is left, but that also a bad news.

[Randwolf]

That add nothing complex to coding >< I bet you anything DEV spend 90% of they time to figure how they going to fit next expansion on PS2.

I doubt it. You normally would start with your most restrictive parameters and expand to the other operating systems, which allow you to do more. There was a reason WoW stopped Windows 98 support 'cold turkey' instead of zone by zone, as you suggest.

[NightDagger]

Exactly what i was saying with new zone for none-PS2 user, and i find this fair enough since 92% player base are not on PS2/PS3. I still think is less brutal then totally tell them that SE don't support them at all.

Of course that will cost SE $$$ for development, but they don't have to redo a complete new game with 100 new zone, just 2~3 new zone as beta-release would be already a net progress. And if is not perfect day 1 (as it was the case of 14) who care? We still have our old zone without bug available to play. In the end i am sure that would increase player base of FFXI which is sadly maybe not anymore they prio with 14

Not trying to flam or troll, just That JP Button site has to be off. It stats that 30% of JP users are playing on PS2. but it is only 6%? must be old data or they are saying hardly any JP's play lol

Just something I read & have a hard time believing.

Oh and SE stated last year that FFXI will be fully supported until 2013 & they have already got new full expansion in the development. After 2013 they do not what will happen, it will depend solely on the player base at that time.

So this means that they have zero intention of eliminating the PS2 & are still goingto continue to work around there limitations. (I will search for the press release this is stated in, I know it was one from when FFXIV was getting ready for Alpha Testing)

[Zyeriis]

Not trying to flam or troll, just That JP Button site has to be off. It stats that 30% of JP users are playing on PS2. but it is only 6%? must be old data or they are saying hardly any JP's play lol

Just something I read & have a hard time believing.

Oh and SE stated last year that FFXI will be fully supported until 2013 & they have already got new full expansion in the development. After 2013 they do not what will happen, it will depend solely on the player base at that time.

So this means that they have zero intention of eliminating the PS2 & are still goingto continue to work around there limitations. (I will search for the press release this is stated in, I know it was one from when FFXIV was getting ready for Alpha Testing)

That 30% statistic is from 2 years ago, from a survey. I wouldn't take that seriously at all.
That "expansion pack" is Abbysea I'm about 95% sure on that, considering that was over a year ago.

[NightDagger]

That 30% statistic is from 2 years ago, from a survey. I wouldn't take that seriously at all.
That "expansion pack" is Abbysea I'm about 95% sure on that, considering that was over a year ago.

Tough to say cause the first Abyssea was already out with the second following soon. But I also can not confirm whether it is or is not.