PS2 limitation new Zone solution.

[rog]

i do not know how you can have an argument with someone about a game that is 9 years old & expect it to look like a game that is 1 years old. Cause I own a 2001 jeep should I expect dodge to upgrade me cause I am unable to do the things a 2010 jeep can?

If you pay dodge a monthly fee to keep it updated, then yes, you should.

[Ilax]

There are really very little the PS2 is limiting & i do not know how you can have an argument with someone about a game that is 9 years old & expect it to look like a game that is 1 years old. Cause I own a 2001 jeep should I expect dodge to upgrade me cause I am unable to do the things a 2010 jeep can? If you are that unhappy with how a game looks & plays then go play something more recent. Heck I still play FFVII on my PS3 but am not complaining that the graphics suck & they should upgrade these for me.

Go check WoW and tell me about it, i did not see yet how is going into EQ1, but i bet is not same garbage looking at it was when it came out. You can't compare your jeep with RPG.

If you pay dodge a monthly fee to keep it updated, then yes, you should.

/amen

[NightDagger]

If you pay dodge a monthly fee to keep it updated, then yes, you should.

but they can change the PC code to justify this problem without having to worry about PS2 limitations. The codes are different & it is just the fact they can't be bothered to tweak them to allow more depth for the PC or 360.

I see a lot of the things people are blaming on PS2 limitations is not really a problem. Thy could easily fix this with some code tweaking 7 anyone on PC or 360 could get a graphics upgrade, better depth & such.

[Ilax]

I see a lot of the things people are blaming on PS2 limitations is not really a problem. Thy could easily fix this with some code tweaking 7 anyone on PC or 360 could get a graphics upgrade, better depth & such.

there a limit on tweaking, 32meg of ram, i think is enough said right there, is already amazing they got able to go that far with only that.

[rog]

but they can change the PC code to justify this problem without having to worry about PS2 limitations. The codes are different & it is just the fact they can't be bothered to tweak them to allow more depth for the PC or 360.

I see a lot of the things people are blaming on PS2 limitations is not really a problem. Thy could easily fix this with some code tweaking 7 anyone on PC or 360 could get a graphics upgrade, better depth & such.

So, you're one of the .1% of people that actually have some idea of what limitations are actually imposed by the ps2? Gotcha.

[rog]

there a limit on tweaking, 32meg of ram, i think is enough said right there, is already amazing they got able to go that far with only that.

Except only the ps2 version needs to run within 32 mb of ram. The pc version already does not even come close to that, usually taking 3-5x more.

[Nephilipitou]

but they can change the PC code to justify this problem without having to worry about PS2 limitations. The codes are different & it is just the fact they can't be bothered to tweak them to allow more depth for the PC or 360.

I see a lot of the things people are blaming on PS2 limitations is not really a problem. Thy could easily fix this with some code tweaking 7 anyone on PC or 360 could get a graphics upgrade, better depth & such.

Not true. what so ever. Auto-translate is a feature that is not upgraded because if they added more words PS2 players wouldn't be able to see them, and that's part of the problem, because people in Japan play on PS2 more often than PC, and we're trying to communicate largely with Japanese players so that there's less of a communication barrier when trying to do quests. Square Enix said flat out that they have to delete words in Auto-Translate in order to add more words into it.

That's just a simple demonstration of PS2 limitations effecting everyone. A French Player and an American player who don't understand each others languages have a harder time communicating that could be alleviated from more auto-translate.

Those are just a library of words, it's not even rendering ANYTHING. There is no graphical issue, the RAM issue is limited, but it's a clear definable demonstration of how the PS2 is holding back the other version and how this would not be rectifiable. There are plenty of other examples, but then again if I explain them they'd go over your heads.

Here's a hint. It has to do with databases and other such underlying architecture.

[Ilax]

Except only the ps2 version needs to run within 32 mb of ram. The pc version already does not even come close to that, usually taking 3-5x more.

They do because Game take advantage of extra memory, but it could run as low as 32 meg ram available too -.-

[Juri_Licious]

All this boils down to is PS2 players trying to make excuses and not understanding how hardware works.
Also not understanding how a 100 dollar computer can play FFXI flawlessly as can a 200 dollar laptop.

Give up, it's going to happen eventually even if you don't like it.
I suggest trying to get a computer now but, even so you're posting posts on a forum so you MUST have a computer unless you're on a phone.

If you pay for a monthly game, and a monthly internet bill you can afford a 100 dollar computer or 200 dollar laptop.
Stop holding almost the entirety of the FFXI population because YOU don't want to move on.
This isn't about YOU, it's about FFXI being held back due to the PS2's hardware standards.

Stop lying to yourself and just admit you don't want to move on to a Computer or a Xbox 360 because of YOU.

[Randwolf]

Not true. what so ever. Auto-translate is a feature that is not upgraded because if they added more words PS2 players wouldn't be able to see them, and that's part of the problem, because people in Japan play on PS2 more often than PC, and we're trying to communicate largely with Japanese players so that there's less of a communication barrier when trying to do quests. Square Enix said flat out that they have to delete words in Auto-Translate in order to add more words into it.

That's just a simple demonstration of PS2 limitations effecting everyone. A French Player and an American player who don't understand each others languages have a harder time communicating that could be alleviated from more auto-translate.

Those are just a library of words, it's not even rendering ANYTHING. There is no graphical issue, the RAM issue is limited, but it's a clear definable demonstration of how the PS2 is holding back the other version and how this would not be rectifiable. There are plenty of other examples, but then again if I explain them they'd go over your heads.

I believe they also said the amount of slots available in each kind of storage, Bag, Satchel, Safe, etc. was also impacted by the PS2. And, why they have had to find alternative storage methods.