PS2 limitation new Zone solution.

[Ilax]

I was thinking about it, SE could make totally new zone for none-PS2 player, those new zone would have new graphic/monster/texture etc.

Let say the same gear would drop from these zone, let say that could be NEW abyssea alternative for everyone that is not playing on PS2 console. I think that would open a new world for DEV, and also could interest tons of new player, without leaving PS2 support, also note how it would decrease zone occupation.

Some of you might remember many of my comment saying how this game need a better challenge, this would open the door for it New monster could be harder for the same gear stats but they have different color/texture, so in the end it could interest back the hardcore player.

for sure all this is possible, the real question is if SE have the $$$ for a project like that, but what you guys think about the idea?

[Mordanthos]

I was thinking about it, SE could make totally new zone for none-PS2 player, those new zone would have new graphic/monster/texture etc.

Let say the same gear would drop from these zone, let say that could be NEW abyssea alternative for everyone that is not playing on PS2 console. I think that would open a new world for DEV, and also could interest tons of new player, without leaving PS2 support, also note how it would decrease zone occupation.

Some of you might remember many of my comment saying how this game need a better challenge, this would open the door for it New monster could be harder for the same gear stats but they have different color/texture, so in the end it could interest back the hardcore player.

for sure all this is possible, the real question is if SE have the $$$ for a project like that, but what you guys think about the idea?

This just cant happen, and everyones idea of just, hey just make it not available to PS2 users is an impossible and unfair limitation. Its horrible business practice. For people who just cant afford to get a computer, that leaves them limited to the amount of fun, content, and almost not played with anymore becuase if this were to happen, everyone would go to the new areas and leave the PS2 players in the dust. Eventually what is going to HAVE to happen, whether they like it or not, is they will have to cut off the support to the PS2 and it most likely WILL happen, but of course, its going to be a while before they make a decision like that. It wont happen until they are absolutely positively sure that they can still make a buck on the services, and in order to do that, the content has to stay rewarding for players to keep playing, and if its not too large to fit into the PS2, the PS2 will live on until it is deemed impossible for the game to expand when they are planning to expand.

[Coldbrand]

We're already at that point, thus Abyssea.

[Mordanthos]

We're already at that point, thus Abyssea.

i dont even think the game has hit half of the PS2 HD capacity yet. Unless there is some sort of LIMIT to the space that its allowed to use on it, they have plenty plenty plenty of room on it, i seriously think it hasnt reached 20 gigs, and its capacity is 40.

I mean at some point your all going to be crying that the XBOX 360 is limiting the game, this is why you dont bring MMO's to consoles really, a PC is forever expanding, unlimited growth, systems have breaking points. Why we have an MMO that is cross console to PC networking is beyond me. But crap happens, oh well.

[Coldbrand]

Yes, I'm sure they'll have the game expand beyond 120 gigs and we'll "cry" about 360 limitations. Please, continue to marginalize legitimate concerns about the future of a product us consumers who have invested some more than a thousand dollars singlehandedly have since a small portion of the userbase insists on using 11 year old technology and thinks it's inconsiderate of US to expect them to upgrade to even the worst of possible computers or even a console that the majority of core gamers already own to begin with.

[Mordanthos]

Yes, I'm sure they'll have the game expand beyond 120 gigs and we'll cry about 360 limitations.

you say 120 gigs, but look at PS2, its capacity is 40 gigs, and the game hasnt even reached 20 gigs yet, so wtf is limiting the updates because of the PS2. The XBOX 360 may hold some sort of LIMIT to how much data is allowed to be used for 1 single game.

[Vold]

I think the only thing a hardcore gamer is interested in is bragging rights and fuel for their shouting matches at each other about who's #1. Whenever a person goes spewing non sense about challenge they're really just saying that they want the gear from those encounters so they can brag. You go and do what you suggest and all you're really doing in ensuring hardcore gamers stick around current zones because it's more efficient. But hey for what it's worth I'm game for it. It'll serve to prove my point.

I really think with Abyssea it has opened things up to go the challenging route. Problem is we the players have opted to bail out on the challenge part. It's our choice to put a MNK up against Rani while everyone else stands comfortably by watching. Really, why bother with designing challenging content if all we're going to do is skip as much of it as possible? It's all talk from people as far as I'm concerned.

[Mordanthos]

I think the only thing a hardcore gamer is interested in is bragging rights and fuel for their shouting matches at each other about who's #1. Whenever a person goes spewing non sense about challenge they're really just saying that they want the gear from those encounters so they can brag. You go and do what you suggest and all you're really doing in ensuring hardcore gamers stick around current zones because it's more efficient. But hey for what it's worth I'm game for it. It'll serve to prove my point.

I really think with Abyssea it has opened things up to go the challenging route. Problem is we the players have opted to bail out on the challenge part. It's our choice to put a MNK up against Rani while everyone else stands comfortably by watching. Really, why bother with designing challenging content if all we're going to do is skip as much of it as possible? It's all talk from people as far as I'm concerned.

Dude...wtf does any of this have to do with the topic...

[Ilax]

hey just make it not available to PS2 users is an impossible and unfair limitation.

So is limiting PC user because of PS2 sound more fair? You said it, they have to drop it eventually, don't mean they have to do it brutally, my solution is overtime, and of course it give an reason for PS2 to upgrade. Why do you think people left Win95, because microsoft stop support them, do you really think 98 had better to offer? Better security hole maybe, same will happen with XP vs Vista...

I don't know, i think what i say sound more fair because is not brutal as completely drop PS2 support, of course they wont have access to new zone as they can't play FF14, but they still can get the same gear, so they are not really missing much outside new environment that everyone would like to see, and you know if PS2 player are that much interest in it, they will upgrade, is not like they are forced to do it.

Also, nothing say SE can't restore old zone for PS2 player. (is what they are doing anyway atm) To say they going to be left behind i don't think so, specially if SE give a reason to stay in old content as they currently doing with abyssea.

[Antonioklaus]

This just cant happen, and everyones idea of just, hey just make it not available to PS2 users is an impossible and unfair limitation. Its horrible business practice. For people who just cant afford to get a computer, that leaves them limited to the amount of fun, content, and almost not played with anymore becuase if this were to happen, everyone would go to the new areas and leave the PS2 players in the dust. Eventually what is going to HAVE to happen, whether they like it or not, is they will have to cut off the support to the PS2 and it most likely WILL happen, but of course, its going to be a while before they make a decision like that. It wont happen until they are absolutely positively sure that they can still make a buck on the services, and in order to do that, the content has to stay rewarding for players to keep playing, and if its not too large to fit into the PS2, the PS2 will live on until it is deemed impossible for the game to expand when they are planning to expand.

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